As a Christian, I challenge all atheists to stop borrowing all their tools from the God of the Bible and make your case without using logic, universals, induction, morality, or your minds. When you can do that, I'll take your claims seriously. Until then, every protest you make only proves what you are trying to deny. I am Doug Powell and I am proud to fail The Blasphemy Challenge.
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Dougie boy I challange you to prove the existance of any gods without using emotional pleading, ignoring evidence or claiming a collection of oral myths trumps objective reality. When you can do that, I'll take your claims seriously.
I don't see any logic, universals, deduction(induction a little), which is the usual scientific method or "morality" as we understand today in the Bible(in the Gospel maybe). In that book I see mythical language(like in any other religion, for that matter), ethnocentrism and casuality ethic, some rules that follow the principle "it is so because I say so" and the morality is one in which the group prevails, like in any other tribe, and doesn't give a danm about individuals. Logic, indeed, comes from "logos", a Greek borrowing from the fourth century BC in a more than remote place from Palestina.
Dougie, prove to me that logic, universals, induction, morality, or our minds are all tools provided by your god.
They are not exclusive to the Bible, despite what your brainwashing has told you.
On a side note to the rest of us, I think he's just pissed off at atheists because we're always telling him to prove the existence of god without using the Bible.
The problem is he can't see the logic.
Well, then I challenge you to prove the Bible truth using logic, universals, induction, morality, or your minds. But you can't use indoctrination, willful ignorance, or faith.
Gee, let's see, "stop borrowing all their tools from the God of the Bible and make your case without using logic, universals, induction, morality, or your minds". Make up your fucking mind, either we have to use the supernatural, miracles, myths, anecdotes, and superstitions like you fundies(tools of God of the Bible) or we're allowed to use logic and our minds like ourselves.
As a Christian, I challenge all atheists to stop borrowing all their tools from the God of the Bible
I'll give him his frickin' power drill back when he returns my hedge clippers.
So, we are supposed to disprove God (which you never proved) BUT using any tool created by God proves God exists. And you assume that God exists and that he created everything, which means that attempting to disprove God would mean proving him by your standards.
You assume you are right and set terms by which you can't be proven wrong, yet demand your initial unsupported assertion by disproved. Shifting the burden of proof and begging the question. Maybe I should take a leaf from your book, you are an expert in logic-free debates
so basically, we're to prove it using asinine, easily refuted arguments, and preferably yelling it/using Caps Cruise control.
Sound familiar?
Ok. I'll follow Plato and Socratese. They wre using logic, induction, deduction, universal arguments, as well as syllogisms and other rhetorical tools centuries before your god was a wet dream in some jews twisted little imagination.
God has tools now? I need a wide screwdriver, does he have one that is about half an inch, ordinary, not philips?
Logic is not from the bible, rather the oposite. Morality was around before Christianity. My mind is definitely not a property of God. What's a universal?
I don't protest, I just state that I see no evidence of a god. And as I do not believe in any god, then I can not make a blasphemy either. It's you who are making extraordinary claims, you are the one who have to make a case.
logic, universals, induction, morality, and the human mind existed way before the birth of Christianity & Judaism... maybe if you read some books you might know this..
so in short what you just said is moot...
ya nit!
What value would a point made not using simple logic, morality, OR your brain have? I think you are missing the point. If logic supports you, your idea is very probably more truthful or valid than an idea that is just said without thinking. DUH. Goddammit, what is wrong with people that they do not comprehend this?
I challenge all atheists to stop borrowing all their tools from the God of the Bible and make your case without using logic, universals, induction, morality, or your minds.
Since when is the God of the Bible logical?
Since when is the God of the Bible universal?
Since when is the God of the Bible capable of (inductive) reasoning?
Since when is the God of the Bible moral?
And the God of the Bible is clearly out of his mind.
So all of these tools definitely don't come from the god of the bible.
Sorry, "Doug Powell", I have all freedom to use logic, universals, induction, morality, and my own mind to defend Atheism.
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