[Scientific proof of God]
Hypothesis: Humans will continue to enter the world through painful childbirth, minus cloning which is not an original human being born but a clone of one that already existed or still exists.
Prediction: We will continue to see people born of painful child birth as the Bible contends.
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"This has, exactly, WHAT do to with anything even remotely connected with doing science?"
He used the word "hypothesis". Notice that, while he did create something that is a "hypothesis" in the loosest sense of the term, he scrupulously avoided explaning any facts or phenomena with his "hypothesis", eliminating any chance of it being a scientific hypothesis.
I'm confused. Is his proof of God that we are born of painful childbirth, and if we continue to be born through painful childbirth, that proves God? Why not, the sun rose today, it will probably rise tomorrow? It rained this week, it will probably rain again? I'm an idiot today, I'll probably still be an idiot tomorrow?
Betrand Russell said this:
One occasion for theological intervention to prevent the mitigation of human suffering was the discovery of anesthetics. Simpson, in 1847, recommended their use in childbirth, and was immediately reminded by the clergy that God said to Eve: 'In sorrow shalt thou bring forth children' (Gen. id. 16). And how could she sorrow if she was under the influence of chloroform? Simpson succeeded in proving that there was no harm in giving anesthetics to men, because God put Adam into a deep sleep when He extracted his rib. But male ecclesiastics remained unconvinced as regards the sufferings of women, at any rate in childbirth.
"Hypothesis: Humans will continue to enter the world through painful childbirth"
"Prediction: We will continue to see people born of painful child birth"
Assuming that one is a valid hypothesis, and that's a lot, you have made the same prediction as your hypothesis. Scientific method works proposing an hypothesis, then stating a necessary prediction, different from the hypothesis. Then you observe and experiment and if the prediction comes true, then the hypothesis must be true. Having a prediction that is the same as the hypothesis is rather useless, nor scientific at all.
TLC,
Well, since that would be alternative hypothesis, anaesthetics used in childbirth do disprove god. No wonder fundies can't get their "science" published in peer review journals.
If this is the best proof for god that you have, you really ought to look into another like of work. I wouldn't suggest being a salesman, though, because you seem to have a lack for selling your BS.
So, the Bible states the obvious. Well, that's me convinced! I'm off to church to convert... no, just STFU.
Caesarean section under anaesthesia. You lose.
BTW, that the babies get born in a painful way through the pelvis is an excellent demonstration that we evolved from four-legged animals. That the babies get born through the pelvis has NOTHING to do with your pathetic collection of fairy-tales.
“[Scientific proof of God]”
Science cannot prove the supernatural Fail from time Zero.
“Hypothesis: Humans will continue to enter the world through painful childbirth, minus cloning which is not an original human being born but a clone of one that already existed or still exists.”
This is more of a prophecy. As medical science increases and improves the human condition, you are sure that natural childbirth will still occur. You give no reason for this.
You also believe cloning will increase in the future, but appear to think that it ’won’t count’ as it’s not a ‘new person.’ What difference does that make?
You miss artificial wombs. A lot of work will be going into making a process where the fertilized egg matures in a machine. That doesn’t feel pain.
“Prediction: We will continue to see people born of painful child birth as the Bible contends.”
Your prediction is just repeating your hypothesis. We WILL see proof….someday.
Except you need to establish numbers. Is your prediction come true if 98% of the population comes from painless means of reproduction, and 2$ are the future hippies, or noncomformists, or superstitious?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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