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People who don't believe in God are not alive
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People who don't believe in God have no reason to live. What is the meaning of life if there is no another life after death, and there is no God to judge us for what we do ?

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old comment by Eden

I think with this quote we have the main driving force between most of the fundamentaists actions.

They clutch their faith like a drowning person cutches a plank because they couldn´t stabnd the feeling that there is no afterlife and/or there is no personal savior who directly answers all of their prayers (no mater how many atrocities he commited in the past according to HIS holy book).

And as they directly connect the literal truth of the bible to the existence of god and afterlife (i.e. only if the bible is literal true there can be an afterlife and a god) it is of existential importance for them to defend their belief in the literal truth of the bible to the last.

(another driving force is, of course, the wish tio elevate themselves above others (analogous to: "Look, you might be a supersmart citizen whereeas I am just a simple mechanic, but nevertheless I will get to heaven and you get thrown to hell, because I believe in the literal truth of the bible, whereas you just believe in evolution"))

old comment by Beeblebrox

People who don't believe in God are not alive

That makes it easier on your conscience when it's time to start throwing free thinkers onto the bonfire.

People who don't believe in God have no reason to live.

Thanks for revealing to me my heretofore concealed nihilism. Here I was taking pleasure in intellectual pursuits, interaction with my wife, son, and friends, hobbies, good food and so forth. I guess I need to whip up a quick glass of hemlock.

What is the meaning of life if there is no another life after death, and there is no God to judge us for what we do ?

This may be the most heartbreaking sentence I have ever read. You poor b*****d.

old comment by Skyknight

...Considering that death is a kind of non-presence, it doesn't make much sense to give it THAT much weight. Better to give the meaning to the life that precedes (and, if any, that which comes after it).

I think Mostafa's point is that if a thing doesn't last forever, it is ultimately worthless. I can see his point, since a dead thing, no longer existing, is of no worth to the infinite future. But then, this sort of worry is what motivates me to look for a way to drive Entropy back out of existence, not look strictly to the afterlife (just because you're in Heaven, or other afterlife, should NOT mean you can regard your previous places of life as nothing. Should the butterfly scorn the leaves it fed on as a caterpillar? Such is grave ingratitude.).

I don't think the problem is the belief in an afterlife, per se. It's rather the belief that you can get away with calling the present worthless just because the future is greater. One should not submit to despair and believe this life cannot be cured of ephemerality.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"People who don't believe in God are not alive"

Cogito ergo sum. You FAIL.

"People who don't believe in God have no reason to live. What is the meaning of life if there is no another life after death, and there is no God to judge us for what we do ?"

Name for us just one Atheist Suicide Bomber, Mossie.

...thought not. Seems we Atheists have infinitely more concern for the lives of fellow human beings than God-believing Islamists then. Or even Christians. Timothy McVeigh. Scott Roeder. Anders Breivik. Despite 'believing in God', Timmy is not alive; Scott & Anders might as well be, now sans freedom.

No, Mossie, you are the zombies.

And then Mossie was-(*'Allahu Akhbar!'*)KA-BLAMMO!

Moral: 'The Meaning of Life'? It answers it's own fucking question.

@Blarghonius

"I'm totally undead. Sweet. Guess I don't need to breathe, eat, or drink."

In the manga by CLAMP "xxxHOLiC", one of the twists is that Yuuko the Dimensional Witch is a zombie. Only, a very much sentient, physiologically intact, non-brain eating, wise, intelligent, caring, fun (and alcohol)-loving, and extremely sexy zombie. She - and our resident hot Wiccan SpukiKitty - kinda fucks up Mossie's argument here, I'd say

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