Evolutionists refuse to involve creationism into science. Then why is B.C (before Christ) used to describe a period of time [yom]? Isn't time a dimension therefore making it scientific theory?
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No, because time can be verified objectively, even if it's based on an event which may not have occured, you can still count from that supposed event.
So, an arbitrary date to begin our calendars (an arbitrary date chosen by religious figures thousands of years ago, no less!) is proof that any reference to time must be religious?
"Look, ma! I can use a calendar system devised by my religion to fallaciously prove that my religion is right!"
Well, since it is widely held 1 b.c. to have been a point in time that occured when Jesus was about 4-6 years old, if it is a scientific theory, it's credibility is in serious jeopardy.
Isn't time a dimension therefore making it scientific theory?"
Absolutely. We need to present all potential explanations in the same light, regardless of verifiable evidence. We need to acknowledge that, without faith in untestable invisible entities, we have no concept of how long it's been since 2007 revolutions-of-the-earth-around-the-sun-ago.
(somebody ought to come up with a shorter word for those.)
To avoid alienating our fellow scientists, the ID proponents, we should all refer to those revolutions with reverence to the one who makes them appear in our unproven telescopes, and call them "Yarrrs".
RAmen.
Frankly, I'm a fan of using the Mayan dates. So today for example is Wo 13 (3 Chiccan) on the astrological calendar, and 12.19.14.5.5 on the long count, quickly approaching that spiffy 13.0.0.0.0 in a couple years.
Or the standard CE/BCE. That works too. Though, I am just of the opinion calendars are fun, and this person is crazy/a moron. I think most here woudl agree on that though.
Stuff.
And I should mention that the months are named mostly after Roman deities or other concepts of roman culture.
January - Month of Janus
March - Month of Mars
May - Month of Maia
"AD" is nothing but a CULTURAL norm.
Thenders, you do realize the the Gospel of Luke has the birth of Jesus taking place during a census? The only record we have of a census from that area in the world from around that time period is the census of Quirinius -- in the year 6 AD. (However, that would not have required Joseph and Mary to go to Bethlehem, so it still doesn't really fit the Biblical description.) So, according to the Gospel of Luke, Jesus was born six years after the birth of Christ.
According to your own Bible, Jesus was also supposed to have been born during the reign of Herod the Great. Who died in 4 BC. So according to your own Bible, Jesus was also born four years before the birth of Christ.
You tell me what we're measuring time from. Because we clearly aren't measuring it from the birth of Christ.
Maybe that's why secular scholars typically prefer to use the BCE/CE system to the BC/AD system. I don't think it matters too much what you decide to call it because we're clearly measuring from a completely arbitrary date by all accounts.
Edit: According to Wikipedia, the BC/AD dating system was first devised by a monk in 525 AD.
@ Anon:
You said:
We use B.C.E and A.C.E.
I'm pretty sure you meant to say C.E. rather than A.C.E. (Yeah, this is a really minor nitpick and other have already pointed out the use of the BCE/CE dating system. It could just have been a typo. It's a really minor thing, but it was really kind of bugging me. Which is more of my problem than yours.)
Monday, day of the moon
Tuesday, day of Tyr
Wednesday, day of Wotan (Odin)
Thursday, day of Thor
Friday, day of Frey or Freya
Saturday, day of Saturn (or the day to clean and wash in Swedish)
Sunday, day of the sun
Guess all who uses these days of the week are pagans...
Science hadn't come very far when we started using AD and BC, subsequently we just stayed with the old custom. Btw, Thenders, where did year 0 go? Ya know, the year our lord was born? We only have the year before him and the year after him.
The Gregorian calender is an adapted one from the Julian calender before it with the names changed. The Julian calander had 365 days and an extra day every four years. Sound familiar?
Guess you should be studying up on your Roman Gods you heretic
Time is a unit of measurement. The calander has been changed many times throughout recorded history so any units are purely a matter of convenience. Because christianity was dominent when the choice was made the putative Birth of Christ was used for 0.
Modern convention is BCE (before commone era) and CE instead of BC/AD.
Evolutionists refuse to involve creationism into science
1) That's because it isn't science. 2) There is no such thing as an "evolutionist", the word you are looking for is "sane".
Then why is B.C (before Christ) used to describe a period of time [yom]?
Because it's handy, convenient and everyone knows what you're referring to. Quite a lot of people now use BCE/CE for that exact reason.
Isn't time a dimension therefore making it scientific theory?
Not in the sense you mean, it isn't.
Evolutionists also refuse to involve the Tooth Fairy into science. BCE, Before Common Era, is now often used instead of BC.
So you believe in the Aesir gods and the Greek and Roman gods? No? Then why do you use Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, January, February, March, May and June? If time is a dimension and that makes what you call it a scientific theory, then you have just proven that the Aesir, Greek and Roman gods are real. Good for you, dearie.
"Then why is B.C (before Christ) used to describe a period of time [yom]? Isn't time a dimension therefore making it scientific theory?"
Because scientists use 'CE'/'BCE '; 'Before Common Era '.And according to Professors of Theology, Jesus was born in September (therefore no 25th Dec. Xmas for you! [/Soup Nazi]), and 4 BCE . NEXT!
Deep fried fundie argument. Yom Nom Nom..! >:D
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