How can humanistic psychology be reconciled with Christianity? The views of Carl Rogers are NOT similar to Christ's - they are totally contradictory and more in line with those of the New Age Movement. The basis of person centred theory is its view of man as 'inherently good and moving in the right direction' and the opposite of biblical sinful man. The goal of humanistic therapy - 'actualization' (or, 'godhood for man') is hardly a Christian aim. I believe there is a place especially in treating mental health problems for the more scientific psychological approach of cognitive behaviour therapy with its goals of eradicating irrational thinking. Without doubt it would be better to look to the Lord for answers but what of relieving the human suffering of non believers? Please beware of 'holistic', client centred, humanistic pseudoscience with its hidden agendas.
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"So, what's wrong with me, doc?"
"Well, Dave, you feel depressed and low self worth because you are worthless in the eyes of our lord and saviour! You deserve to rot in the pits of hell forever! Everything you did for every second of your miserable, sinner's life, even when you volunteered time reading stories to dying children, even when you gave your right lung and several pints of blood for transplants, even when you gave the pope cpr, was nothing but throwing shit in the face of god, because you're not fucking good enough. You're bad, Dave, bad! There's nothing you can do, no way you can make amends. You deserve your depression! You deserve to feel rotten! Now go and pray for forgiveness, which you will never have except through Jesus, you wretch!"
Somehow, I think I'd rather see a non-fundie psychologist.
Cheryl dear, not only non-believers, what about muslims, buddist or Jewish people who don´t believe in your crap?. Besides, aren´t we saved through Baptism?, so then, what´s the sinful nature of men?, don´t start with contradictions.
Primary message of Christianity: You're shit, you eat shit, and nothing you ever do will change that you evil, vile, despicable piece of shit.
Okay, so the only one who can save me from the chemical imbalance in my brain is the almighty gob.
Um, no. I'll take the pills and therapy, thanks.
"Please beware of 'holistic', client centred, humanistic pseudoscience with its hidden agendas."
Please beware of 'spiritual', Christ centered, religious pseudoscience with its hidden agendas.
Do you even know what 'holistic' means, Cheryl? I somehow doubt it. And how exactly is a healing approach that takes into account the whole person instead of just the one affected area anti-Christian, anyway?
I believe there is a place especially in treating mental health problems for the more scientific psychological approach of cognitive behaviour therapy with its goals of eradicating irrational thinking.
Be careful what you wish for, Ms. Fundie....
Matilde,
I think, if you bothered to find out about the religions you quote, you would realize that both Jews and Muslims agree on 'the sinful nature of man'...not suprising since the old testament IS the Jewish Torah from which the Koran takes its historical perspective. 'Saved by baptism' - not in my Bible.
Savrin
Interesting how you translate 'sinful' into 'truly depraved beast'. I, for one, am of course capable of doing good but my motivation is almost always selfish. Combine this with my being so damn naughty and I'm well happy with having a Saviour. Reason I'm a Christian
Brain in a jar
You forgot to mention the Good News - 'Jesus loves you Dave - be you good or bad - and, far from viewing you as worthless, he paid for you with his blood.
I wonder where you atheists collect the data on which you base your understanding of the concept of 'good'.
Can I also clarify that the therapy I practice is never based on fundamentalist religious views but rather on the scientific nature of the theory I apply.
Tyro
Maybe you should take a Nobel Prize, since you're the first to discover (and can, of course, prove)the aetiology of mental illness.
Skywolf
If I don't know the meaning of 'holistic' after 30 years work with psychological disturbance, a CQSW and a Masters in Counselling Psychology, it's a sorry state. Unfortunately, Carl Rogers didn't, since he declares that "the client's thoughts are of no importance, only the feelings". How is his Person-centred theory anti-christian - isn't that the argument you're commenting on?
Mr Badaxe
If you don't lance the boil, it don't get better. Or, if you don't acknowledge the antecedents of the problem, how do you know what to build up?
Is it one and the same person commenting on each and every comment? It would be nice if you stated your username, makes it easier to respond. Common sense and decency says that when you learn someone's name, you give yours in return.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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