Proverbs 13:24
Whoever spares the rod hates their children,but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.
This counts as well for telling sinners that they are sinning.
If you DON'T tell a sinner he is sinning and rebuke him, you hate him.
Example:
A person knows a homosexual and tells him he is a sinner and needs to repent and can change with the help of God. Perhaps the homosexual de-friends the person.
Another person, doesn't tell him a word because he prefers to not risk losing a friend. (Saying nothing counts as encouragement as well).
Homosexual is a sin. Sin brings us to Hell. So who of these people truly loved the homosexual? Indeed it was the first person who loved him and the second person who hated him, caring more about his friendship than the more important eternal life of his "friend".
We(Christians) don't hate homosexuals. But you don't love them. Not REALLY.
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Threatening someone with punishment by a God they don't believe in is rather pointless, isn't it?
If I tell you that if you offend Odin you won't be admitted to Valhalla, will it have any effect on your behavior?
No, bullshit. That's just hate pretending that the Bible justifies it.
Saying nothing counts as encouragement as well
No, it doesn't.
The thing about trying to cloak your nonsense and bullshit under a banner of profound philosophy is that all you accomplish is making the banner stink. No matter how poetic the words you use to describe it or how labyrinthine the so-called "logic" you use to defend it may be, bullshit is still bullshit and hatred is still hatred. You don't love the ones you call "sinners". What you love is how it makes you feel when you say that you do. What you love is yourself and the narcissistic high that PRETENDING to love others in spite of your hatred brings you.
You're just another mother Theresa, minus the publicity. Another wretched, heartless little monster who calls torture "love" and mindless obedience to nonsense "enlightenment".
It would not be caring to orchestrate a bullying campaign against others for an innate trait of theirs, purely because your holy book tells you it's wrong in one part, and I'm sure that most homosexuals are aware of the promises of torture that awaits them, according to the fundamentalists. This will only drive them away, and I cannot blame them if you think that friendship involves expressing disgust at someone for who they are. Of course you discount the possibility that other Christians may not adopt the same homophobic view as you.
@ OHP: well said
@ OP: I assume you also tell shellfish eaters, pork eaters, leather goods wearers, those men with short hair & no beards, wearers of mixed fabrics, divorcees that they are all going to hell as well, correct? No? Why do you hate them and not the gay? Share your brand of love with all these sinners as well.
When you find yourself shunned & alone - maybe you'll rethink things - or not. I'm assuming you would consider it a sign that you're being persecuted for your faith, not that you're being an asshat.
I love them enough to respect their right to make their own life choices and leave them alone.
I love them enough to see them as fellow humans rather than a threat.
I love them enough to understand that their sex lives are none of my business.
I love them enough to understand that being LGBT doesn't automatically make a person a child rapist.
I love them enough to not try to alter their lives or perceptions of themselves via the reprogramming you dumbfucks refer to as 'conversion therapy'.
I love them enough to want to protect them from your bigotry, hatred and religiously-motivated slander.
I think the quality of my love for LGBT people is far more, you know...loving than yours.
Well, haven't loved any recently... Oh, you didn't mean... oops.
Dude, we aren't children. Fully grown adults can discipline themselves. Did you just miss the difference between pups and adults? Did they not teach you that in school?
Hmm... come to think of it, that would explain some things...
Whoever spares the rod hates their children,but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.
What if you're able to discipline them without hitting them all the time? I have rarely ever spanked my children but they're very well-behaved.
A person knows a homosexual and tells him he is a sinner and needs to repent and can change with the help of God. Perhaps the homosexual de-friends the person.
Gee, I can't understand why anyone wouldn't want to listen to someone telling them that they're evil and going to hell for something they can't control.
@Wyzard
When you find yourself shunned & alone - maybe you'll rethink things - or not.
More than likely they'll be like most judgmental fundie Christians and think that everyone is going to Hell except them, and everyone needs to hear their smug, superior attitude more than ever.
A person knows a homosexual and tells him he is a sinner and needs to repent and can change with the help of God.
Homosexuals already know what the Bible says about gay sex, and have already been told about it a thousand times by holier-than-thou fundamentalists. If you tell them a thousand-and-first time, you're not a friend giving them information; you're just harassing them because they aren't listening to you. Stop pretending otherwise.
According to her Holy Ladyship, the Invisible Pink Unicorn, blessed be her holy hooves, being a Christian is an abominable sin. I'm just telling you that because I love you.
If homosexuality is a sin, it's not the homosexuals that need to repent, but the one that (supposedly) created them that way; HE's to blame.
The one who beats up their children hates their children. Discipline can be done without violence.
Confused?
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