I wonder if many gays know what liberals really think of them and what their goals are outside using them to try and destroy our democracy. Marxist writings are flagrantly racist, sexist and anti-gay. Here we have a perfect example....the ACLU working hard to support a vicious anti-gay hate group, that wants to spread its "God hates FAGS" message in the most inappropriate manner, at military funerals (these people are nuts). Why would they do this? It doesn't make much sense until you find out that this group is a far left group (most hate groups are). The ACLU shares their attitude toward gays as do most liberals.
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First, try to get it through your bony lttle head that while Marxism is a branch of liberal thought, very few liberals are actually Marxists especially in the U.S..
Second, (turn up your hearing aid so that you can get this too) the ACLU fights for people's rights, not just liberals, not just conservatives, all people. They are often fighting against you and your pals because you are the people often stepping on the rights of others.
Why are you fundies such dumb-asses? Why do you always have to spout off on topics that you very obviously know nothing about?
The ACLU exists to protect everyone's rights. Fred Phelps is a vicious, bigoted hate-monger and very probably clinically insane, but he has the right to say what he thinks, just like you do. Can't any of you get it through your thick skulls that freedom of speech extends to everyone, not just those whose opinions you agree with?
What a fuckwit.
Most hate groups are liberals? Then why is it that they invariably are the ones who CONDEMN "liberals" among gays, other races, other religions, and the various other targets of their hate?
~David D.G.
ACLU=American Civil Liberties Union. Not the Liberal Civil Liberties Union, the AMERICAN CLU. They help all Americans (and quite possibly non-Americans too, I'd have to look that up), not just liberals. Fucktard.
<<< I wonder if many gays know what liberals really think of them >>>
Most of them do - "whatever floats your boat" and "not my cup of tea, but live and let live" are fairly typical answers.
<<< Marxist writings are flagrantly racist, sexist and anti-gay. >>>
Evidence please? Given the status of society as a whole in the days of Marx, I wouldn't be shocked by this, but if Panacea said the sky was blue I'd look out a window just to make sure.
<<< the ACLU working hard to support a vicious anti-gay hate group >>>
Because they believe in freedom of speech for *all*, not just those who agree with them. Very few ACLU members that I know would agree with Phelps and his ilk - but they will defend his right to say what he wants.
<<< (these people are nuts) >>>
The only thing you've gotten right in the whole paragraph.
<<< It doesn't make much sense until you find out that this group is a far left group (most hate groups are). >>>
Bullshit. I won't pin all of them on the far right (though most are much, much closer to the far right than the far left), because they tend to defy simple classification, but I know of none I would classify as "far left" (except maybe PETA, and they're not really a hate group, though their tactics are sometimes depressingly similar).
ACLU=American Civil Liberties Union. Not the Liberal Civil Liberties Union, the AMERICAN CLU. They help all Americans (and quite possibly non-Americans too, I'd have to look that up), not just liberals.
To be fair to the raving fundie Panacea, though, most of the cases the ACLU takes on do have a decidedly left-of-center bent. The instances of the ACLU protecting Fred Phelps, neo-Nazis, etc., are very few and far between -- one would be tempted to say they are "token" cases, taken on by the ACLU to give them an air of defending "both sides" of American freedoms that they perhaps don't deserve.
So liberalism = Marxism? Didn't know I was a Marxist....
...and I didn't know I was a liberal.
(OK, OK, I'm not technically a Marxist, but I use Marxian critique more than liberals -- who I have to look pretty far to the right to see -- would generally accept.)
"Marxist writings are flagrantly racist, sexist and anti-gay"
He must have been influenced by a certain holy book.
Most Marxists nowadays support women, gay rights, and are anti-racist. Thta doesn't speak for the whole history of Marxist thought though.
Marx's writings aren't really focussed on women in particular and Engels did write about submission of women in Origin of the Family, Private Property and The State.(which I haven't actually read but whatever.)
this group is a far left group (most hate groups are)
The rest of this is just lies but this, this is the exact opposite of truth.
It's a continual process, when your own go a bit too far, call them Leftists.
Fox even takes Republicans who have been caught trolling for gays or fraudulent, adulterous behavior, they'll put a D for Democrat on the story about them. They've done it many times.
Kinda like talking about war protesters in a disparaging way with draft dodgers.
The UCLA will stand up for anyone's freedom of speech regardless of their own personal beliefs. They were defending the WBC's right to say what they want, they were not agreeing with them.
The UCLA is the very definition of unbiased. They will put aside their personal bias to defend the law.
Confused?
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