[In response to the following opening thread: Maine Man Thought He'd Face Lesser Charge for Rolling Pig's Head Into Mosque AUBURN, Maine — A Lewiston man accused of rolling a pig's head into a mosque talked to a police officer beforehand and believed he'd be guilty only of littering or improperly disposing of animal parts, according to court documents.]
I read about that when it first happened. He shouldn't be punished severely, because what he did was harmless. When the Clinton administration pays thousands of dollars for '---- Cross' then stuff like this should be treated the same, to be fair.
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And it's pure coincidence that, if you were to set out to devise a method of drastically offending local Muslims with minimal effort and not actually killing anybody, you'd be hard pressed to come up with anything more effective than defacing their place of worship with the blood and tissues of an animal they deem unclean? Maybe if you carved a cross or something into the pig's head first, but that's really just icing on the cake.
Western Christians generally are much less deeply spiritual than Middle East Muslims, and much more inclined to deal with an offense like this in its material sense, rather than its spiritual one. The fact that we cannot comprehend how deeply offensive this is doesn't mean it isn't.
~David D.G.
Well, he ought to be charged with some sort of hate crime as he was obviously trying to offend a particular group.
I think he's referring to "art" that showed the cross in a non-reverencial light. This is different to my mind as the cross "art" was not delivered to a church where as the pig's head was rolled into a mosque.
Hadanelith: Exactly.
Papabear: Is he referring to "Piss Christ", where a guy put a crucifix in the glass of urine and called it art? If so, the Clinton Administration didn't really have anything to do with that, it was the National Endowment for the Arts that had given him a grant. This is a govenment agency, however. There were some other dubious "art works" they had funded about the same time that really got peoples panties in a wad.
Definitely he meant "Piss Cross", or "Piss Christ" rather, but CF will automatically put ---- in place of piss if you type it in. Really.
Though CF has apparently no problems with references to anal sex, it can't tolerate a little slang.
He might mean Andres Serrano's "Piss Christ", a photograph of a small plastic crucifix standing in a beaker of yellow liquid said to be urine. It was part of a show at the Whitney Museum that got publicity at the same time Rudy Giuliani was denouncing the elephant dung painting at the Brooklyn Museum of Art's "Sensations" show. Serrano received a grant from an organization that had, in turn, received a NEA grant.
It doesn't appear that that the NEA specifically funded the "Piss Christ" work, but rather gave a sum of money to another organization which in turn gave Serrano a general $15,000 grant. The NEA is funded by Congress, not by the "Clinton Administration".
Comparing Serrano's work to rolling a pig's head into a mosque is nonsense. Anyone who didn't want to see Serrano's work was free not to attend the Whitney show. The people in the mosque were not given that choice. Serrano didn't go into a church and dump urine on someone else's crucifix.
Has anyone noticed that KC never actually said that the guy shouldn't be punished? He said he shouldn't be punished SEVERELY, which implies that he should be punished, nonetheless. His reasoning seems to be that if the government uses your tax dollars to fund the desecration of holy Christian symbols, then other religious desecrations should be treated with a similar amount of (dis)respect. If you think that makes him a fundie then you are pretty fucktarded.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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