f you are really interested, here is the best visual demonstration of faith I've seen. It's Indy's third trial in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Watch from about 3:16 in. What is unseen becomes seen when the step of faith is taken.
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You're saying religion is an optical illusion?
Does a Romulan ship hidden by a cloaking device also prove your point?
How about the infrared light that comes out of your TV remote?
"What is unseen becomes seen when the step of faith is taken"
Is this another case of the 'There's PLENTY of evidence for God's existence! If you don't see it, you just don't HAVE ENOUGH FAITH!' thing?
"Indiana Jones" movies are fictional, you idiot!
Now; Find a real-life incident with much documentation and proof and well listen.
here is the best visual demonstration of faith I've seen
You chose....poorly.
But once he knows what is there, he throws dirt on it so that he can see the rest. It's not a matter of "stepping out on faith", it was an option he took by deductive reasoning. After further exploration, he found a solution to the rest of the problem. The Christian god doesn't offer that.
I don't see this as being fundie, really. Religious, certainly, and advocating blind faith, but honestly unless there's more to this conversation, this seems more to just be a pop-culture analogy.
What's funny about that scene is when the bridge is revealed, you realize that Indy should have been able to see it all along. The optical illusion created only works from the specific angle the camera is pointed, which isn't Indy's viewpoint.
So the "Predator" films are documentaries ...?!
That's quite the Leap of FAIL to think that Hollywood possesses Yautja technology.
Indy throws dirt onto that rock bridge. Arnie throws wet dirt on himself : to make himself unseen to the alien hunter's infra-red vision.
Danny Glover's fight with that Yautja. NaughtyGirl999's 'battle' with Leviathon. Shit happens.
“ Indy's third trial in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. …What is unseen becomes seen when the step of faith is taken.”
Always hated that scene. You’d have to force every single person entering the crypt to have their head in the same spot and the lighting exactly right, for that trick to even have a chance of working. And he can’t ever move his head side to side or differences appear. And it would only keep sighted people out, too. A blind adventurer gets that far, drops some pebble, hears them click the bridge well before the ground.
And once one person solves it, no one else has to.
But ultimately, how important is this as a test of faith?
I would imagine a test of FAITH could only truly be resolved by God’s magic. This is simple mechanics and optics. Don’t need a god to explain this trap, just paint and perspective.If i was challenged in D&D for a test of faith, they’d jump off a cliff. The faithful catch a breeze to a safe ledge, while the apostate fall straight to the crocodiles. No trick to it, an angel of the god in question waits beside the ledge. Then it’s more like the bridgekeeper in Holy Grail. Each person has their own test of faith.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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