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How to trap an atheist: Serve him a fine meal, then ask him if he believes there is a cook.
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Hey, I,d love to be 'trapped' by this guy.
The answer I'd give would probably be 'I can't be sure. Can you give me another meal so I can study it further?'
How to trap a fundie.
1. Say the universe started with the big bang.
2. Fundie says "what banged"
3. Say "where did god come from?"
While I actually like the anology, what Basiliskos fails to realize is that it only implies that it was created , not that it was created by a diety who is omnicient, omni-benevolent, etc.
If God wants to cook me a meal, I have no problems with it.
Until then, I will just keep thanking my wife for dinner.
"How to trap an atheist: Serve him a fine meal, then ask him if he believes there is a cook."
I'm pretty sure you think you're being clever. I'm also pretty sure you don't see why this is so moronic.
*Walks back into kitchen, thanks and congratulates chef.*
"Now, where's this God dude?"
In contrast to the bible you won´t see a cookbook containing any logical fallacies/contradictions such as:
Aside from this preparing food doesn´t contradict any scientific theories and almost every person has at least once seen a cook at work.
Maybe god could learn a lot of cooks/authors of cookbooks ;)
1 - Go into the kitchen
I would say "Yes, I do believe there is a cook. However, I do not believe there is a God." (if I were an atheist anyway, I'm more agnostic.)
How to trap a Fundie:
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How to bitch-slap Basilounpronouceablename with a comeback:
"There might be a cook, but I'm more interested in the cook-making person"
Here's a better analogy. Serve him a handful of vegetation that may or may not include some nuts, berries and edible plants. Tell him it was prepared by a cook. Then when he asks to see the cook, tell him "you can't - he's in the garden but he's invisible". Then when he says "OK, let's listen for him", tell him the cook doesn't make any sounds, either. If he says "Well, let's put up a fence and wait until he leaves and we can see the gate open and shut" you say "that won't work - he can walk through walls, too - and before you ask, he can't be smelled by dogs or detected electronically, either". "So how do you know he exists?" "Faith!"
Ah, but here's the difference. You can see, smell, hear, touch, taste and hold a conversation with the cook.
You can do none of that with God.
Point taken.
Some objects are designed, others not. The question is, which category best matches the universe as a whole. Given the propensity of the world to actions of both great good and great evil and the apparent presence of a vast quantity of animate and inanimate matter without any observable conection to the earth or humanity, prima facie, the universe appears to be both morally neutral and without determinable purpose related to human kind. For these reasons and other, we reject such claims to the opposite effect as are unsubstantiated. It is not relevant that certain other object are capable of having elments of design and purpose.
How to trap a Christian: Serve him a fine meal, then ask if the meal was created in 6 seconds by an invisible entity beyond space and time with a preoccupation with being worshipped and opposing teh butt sekz, which is the only possible explanation in the absence of seeing the cook.
Well thanks for the food *burp*
But god didn't create that delicious meal for me, the cook did. You gotta admit, that was a pretty nice try though.
Ignore the fundi and go thank the cook personally.
Or
Eat the Fundi, Thank the meal, and answer the cook.
How to trap an atheist: Serve him a fine meal, then ask him if he believes there is a cook.
How to ruin a theist: F*** him in the ass then ask him if he believes there is a cock.
Wipe corner of mouth, belch gently, glare at fundie. Shout "Do you call that a fine meal ? You lying piece of shit! That was microwaved leftovers! You promised me a fine meal and by all the gods of evolution you are going to deliver on your promise. Come! Bring your billfold, you are taking me to the finest dining establishment available and you will provide me with the finest foods known to man". Repeat until full or fundie is bankrupt.
You go into the kitchen and find that the cook is gay - and that this is, in fact, Le Bistro Anthropophagus, the world's finest gourmet cannibal restaurant.
"How to trap an atheist: Serve him a fine meal, then ask him if he believes there is a cook."
How to trap a fundie: Ask to see the cook and compliment him on the meal. Then ask the fundie to produce God in the same way.
Now go back to your ninja cartoon, Basiliskos, the adults are talking.
Atheist response: "I have seen cooks at work preparing meals, and I know of no natural process that could produce a meal like this, so yes." And then the atheist traps the theist by showing them an apple tree, and asking them if it was conjured out of nowhere by a god or just sprouted from a seed.
This is just a rehashing of Ray Comfort's pathetic "painting requires a painter" argument. It was debunked then, and it's debunked now. There's no need to resort to supernatural explanations when there are perfectly feasible natural explanations. Next time, apply Occam's Razor.
I'll just walk into the kitchen, and ask for the cook. Failing that, I will look for the pots and pans, proving that a cook was there. You want to prove God to me? Get him to whisk me down a nice Prime Rib.
Yeah, no checkmate there.
A fine meal does have a creator behind it, a human or several. Yes, Creationists, buildings , machines, paintings and cloths have human creators.
So does the Bible. But this is where you Christians really fail. The Bible is derived from ancient scrolls which Christians stole and altered from many preceding cultures.
It's PROVEN to be man-made
If you simply said there was a cook, I might believe you.
But if you then added that this cook wished the meal into existence with a cry of "Let there be food!" Well, then I'll be less inclined to.
And if you further went on that this cook had a personal grudge against me for something someone in my family once did to him way, way back. And he was all set to get his revenge by murdering me with a cleaver. But then his own son volunteered to be made into a pie in my place. And all I need to do to calm this miracle working psycho-cook down is eat a piece of that pie and say out loud how delicious it was. Well I'd think you were off your rocker.
And If I did happen to believe you, I would be more inclined to call the cops than debate the existence of the cook with you.
And I certainly wouldn't eat any pie.
>> Serve him a fine meal, then ask him if he believes there is a cook.<<
Pffft Typical of a burger flipper.
Except, you know, the cook is said to be invisible and there's evidence that the meal wasn't cooked by that cook, but came in a box from a company that actually exists.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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