Firstly, you cannot see God but you see Him through people. you believe in the wind right? Just because u cant c it doesn't mean its not there.
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Well, I don´t believe in the wind, but has ruined my clothes today. So I DO have to believe it, you idiot.
BUT, and I mean BUT! Like the ladies in the third row of the church choir be havin';BUTT!
I had this used with me at Sunday school (which I was attending mostly for respect to my host family)... I pointed out that wind is not an object but a property of the air (its velocity), explained at least a little bit of physics to the youth leader (I was sixteen, but have been sailing for a while, and had to learn a few things for once :) ), and...
I do not NEED to believe in the wind, I cant SEE the wind, but I can hear it, feel it, see its effects on the world around me, etc etc.
@Coffee
Wolf, I like this Invisible Chocolate Teapot notion. Are we creating a pantheon here?
Why do these fundies think that atheists depend solely on sight in the first place? Do they think we can't tell when their analogy falls apart because it fails to take into account the other senses (not to mention sense itself)?mkb: I love your anecdote. I'm sure it was frustrating for you, but at least it makes a funny story (well, funny in a makes-you-want-to-smack-somebody kind of way).
~David D.G.
"Firstly,"First, "firstly" is not a word.
"you cannot see God"
True.
"but you see Him through people."
No, one can find desireable qualities in most people, but one cannot see God through people. God is an imaginary being, he cannot be seen anywhere through anything.
"you believe in the wind right?"
Absolutely. I have good, solid evidence of the wind. We can feel the wind, we can see it's effects, we know why it behaves as it does and we know what it is made of. Not so for your God.
"Just because u cant c it doesn't mean its not there."
No, but we use other tests beyond just looking when we assess the existence of God. No feeling of "God" can be proven to be God, no effect of God can be proven, no "answered" prayers can be proven to have been fulfilled by God, and wholly worthy prayers go unanswered by God.
Russell's Teapot award!
I can't see the wind, but I can feel it.
Well, see, I agree, I can't. But that there is wind, I can tell you. Otherwise, I couldn't explain why I came back home with my hair all a mess from Mykonos.
"Firstly, you cannot see God but you see Him through people. you believe in the wind right? Just because u cant c it doesn't mean its not there."
Anemometers measure windspeed. Thus they prove the existence of the movement of air by atmospheric pressure. Smoke (and the movement of such) proves the existence of wind too. A rainbow doesn't physically exist, but it can be seen .
Can you say the same for your 'God', tiana24?
Apparatus can detect and measure that which can't be seen. Like I say, there are phenomena that don't actually exist, but can be seen.
Therefore, if your 'God' doesn't physically exist, ergo he doesn't exist. QED.
Well, you can't see farts, but you can smell them! I can't see your spoken words, but I can sure as hell smell them. God, that shit smell!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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