With over a dozen years at some of the world's best universities, I have to admit I'm too well-educated to have ever been an atheist.
Atheism is intellectually dishonest - sorry, that's just below me.
Agnostic, yes. I was agnostic until I saw the beauty of Christ as depicted in the Bible, repented, and put my faith in Christ.
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" I have to admit I'm too well-educated to have ever been an atheist. "
Ahahahahahahaha....too well-indoctrinated is probably more correct.
"Atheism is intellectually dishonest"
Mirror, mirror.
"Agnostic, yes. I was agnostic until I saw the beauty of Christ as depicted in the Bible"
We atheists tend to be agnostic also. But we don't have the intellectual dishonesty to adhere to the belief that a god exists, and that he must be the one that is described in the Bible, entirely based upon whether he sounds appealing to us or not. You, however, think that the Biblical description of Jesus as good, and its ability to pluck at your heartstrings meant that it had to be true. I am afraid that going with your gut isn't intellectual honesty, my friend.
And then you link to Way of the Master, tacitly saying that you think that Ray Comfort is anything but batshit insane, thus throwing away what little credibility you could have had. Bravo. What more could we expect from a Yahoo!
People who donate their bodies to medical schools have been at Universities for many years too, Sweden. And I reckon their still smarter than you.
Sorry people, 'they're'. Give myself an uppercut.
With over a dozen years at some of the world's best universities, I have to admit I'm too well-educated to have ever been an atheist.
What profession are you that caused you to spend 12+ years in higher education? You better blow my mind, or I'm going to assume you just had a lot of trouble graduating.
Atheism is intellectually dishonest - sorry, that's just below me.
You aren't helping your first statement. Arguing that something is 'intellectually dishonest' by using personal feeling is not an intellectually viable argument. I mean, I get it, you feel very highly of yourself. But that in itself does not prove or disprove anything, and any statement that you tie with your pride will not be useful in any intellectual fields. Oh, and if you didn't understand that the first time through, read it for about twelve more years and then you'll get it.
I saw the beauty of Christ as depicted in the Bible
Which is the exact same argument as seeing the beauty in Hitler through Mein Kompf. Anyone outside of the nazi regime viewed him differently, and to properly analyze such a prominent leader, you need to step outside of their influence and then decide your feelings. jest saying.
12 years at one of the "best" (*snort*) Bible Colleges, no doubt. Not to mention you didn't say anything about getting a degree.
Though, to be honest, I don't see you graduating unless your major is marketing, business or interior design.
You went to university for 12 years and got convinced by an ancient goatherder book and a handful of idiotic websites with no real evidence?
Yeah I could probably go to 12 universities for a year each too, but without graduating or applying it to real life, it's clearly meaningless.
With over a dozen years at some of the world's best universities, I have to admit I'm too well-educated to have ever been an atheist.
That's like bragging that since you've been in high school for 6 years, you obviously know more than anyone else.
With over a dozen years at some of the world's best universities, I have to admit I'm too well-educated to have ever been an atheist.
You had to spend over 12 years in university? In several universities?
How in Udûn did you manage that?
And yeah, linking to 'Way of the Master' pretty much demonstrates your ignorance.
Really? Which universities are these?
Most people who've just a passing acquaintance with universities will mention the Sorbonne, Oxford, Yale, and Cambridge.
What about the University of Tokyo, Lausanne Polytechnic, University of the Philippines, University of Sidney, Al-Ahzar University, etc.?
Come on, you foolish ignorant blowhard!
People, this person may have been obtaining a graduate degree/multiple graduate degrees/even an MD....
I have been in school for 10 years, finished a B.A., M.S., and soon my Ph.D., so it is possible.....
But, this person is still a COMPLETE moron even if they have all kinds of "fantastic" credentials from whichever fundie freak university they plopped out of.
I went to a Lutheran college as an undergrad (good school, barely classifies as church-affiliated), and my uber-radical religion professor (who has a master of divinity from Yale) put the kibosh on any delusions I still had that there was any form of magical sky being that orchestrated things on earth like some sort of souped-up marionette. And she's a former atheist. Go figure--as far as I could tell, more people left her classes agnostic or atheist than more religious. Obviously, this dillweed didn't go to this type of school...
With over a dozen years at some of the world's best universities,
Can't hold a job, huh? Was that as coach or janitor?
I think that something is lying and bragging too much. And by the way, if you were in university, in twelve of the best(?), you should know how to provide better unbiased sources.
Argument from authority.
Yawn.
With over a dozen years at some of the world's best universities,
What were you doing there, delivering the groceries?
[With over a dozen years at some of the world's best universities, I have to admit I'm too well-educated to have ever been an atheist.]
Care to elaborate? Which universities? What did you study there? Why were you in school that long?
What does education have to do with faith?
[Atheism is intellectually dishonest - sorry, that's just below me.]
Again--care to elaborate? In what way is it dishonest?
[Agnostic, yes. I was agnostic until I saw the beauty of Christ as depicted in the Bible, repented, and put my faith in Christ.]
How did your years of education factor in this?
"I was agnostic until I saw the beauty of Christ as depicted in the Bible"
Wut? You were convinced by a pretty story, and you think atheism is intellectually dishonest?
IMO, the Illiad and the Odyssey are much better tales. I guess to avoid being dishonest I'd better start worshiping Zeus, Hera, Athena and the rest.
I feel a bit irrationally affronted by the user-name.
If s/he is Swedish and has been more than 12 years at university, s/he must be at least 31 years old by the time this was written. Then s/he was born while Sweden had a state church, was probably made a member of the Swedish Church at birth, would have had Religion Classes each and every week during the first 9 years of school, and would have spent almost all end-of-term celebrations during those years at a church. How the heck could s/he manage to NOT see "the beauty of Christ" during all that Christianity seeping in from everywhere? "The beauty of Christ" is something I can still acknowledge, after years of being an atheist. But one imaginary figure being good and beautiful is not enough to buy into the whole mythology.
Atheism is just a lack of belief in gods. As there is no evidence for any gods, goddesses or other deities, the intellectual default ought to be atheism. Most atheists are agnostic atheists, i.e. we don't know whether gods exist or not, but it doesn't seem like they do. You didn't say whether you were an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist?
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