atheists astoud me. They have violated every law of logic i can think of in an attempt to undermine and destroy the basic concept of God. But the most amainzing this that they would even deny the basic deftion of God that has been around since before the middle ages; that God is necessary and eteranl.
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Most of them don't even know what necessary means but there they plugging away, "God can't be necessary, whatever that is." Most of them think it means "there can't be a world unless "a god" created it. So they don't even understand the basic concept of necessry/contingency you try to expalni it to them and just argue with it as though "you are not trying to expalin anything I know everything I know God can't exist cause I don't like him."
they voilaet the law of non contradiction
violate the law of excluded middle
Occam's razor which they don't understand (totally stupid to think this Presit came up with an argument againt God and they dont' even know what Occams razor says, they think it means "take the simplest idea.")
It's a complete destruction of civilization. Atheism has killed knowelde and destroyed the basis of learnign and litteracy.
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The "law of the excluded middle" is that all logical propositions are either true or false. It says nothing as to whether a given logical proposition is decidable and does not account for formally undecidable propositions such as "this statement is false".
It is far more likely that Streeter has been engaging in "false dichotomies" (saying 'either X is true or Y must be', when X and Y are not mutually exclusive) and is pissed off that someone has pointed them out.
Occam's razor which they don't understand (totally stupid to think this Presit came up with an argument againt God and they dont' even know what Occams razor says, they think it means "take the simplest idea.")
That is what Occam's Razor says in the end, you retard.
And Occam's razor (or Lex Parsimonae to use the correct term) is that "plurality ought never be posed without necessity" (Occam's words). If a hypothesis or theory can function equally well as an explanation of predictor of an observation without a supernatural entity, then there that supernatural entity is not necessary and can be omitted.
Nothing in science requires a supernatural entity, though as long as there are unknowns, there will always be areas where one may reside.
Explaining the unknown be recourse to a supernatural being just puts the onus of proof firmly on the shoulders of the proposer, however. And proof of God is conspicuous only by its absence.
"...Atheism has killed knowelde and destroyed the basis of learnign and litteracy."
Someone has killed Streeter's knowelde and learnign , for sure, but I don't think he can blame his ill-litteracy on atheists. His whole statement is sic, sic, sic.
Maybe they have done so for two reasons. One, 6 billion people in the world and only 30% are Christian. You see, we are not that unanimous. Second, because in the Middle Ages people thought that the world was flat and that the Dinosaurs didn´t exist. That´s why. And the most uneducated people I´ve met are the pious fundamental Christians. It has always been so, it is and always be, whereas atheists are most of the times people with titles who have discovered half the things you use for everyday life. OH THE IRONY.
"atheists astoud me."
I'm pretty sure most things astound you.
"They have violated every law of logic i can think of in an attempt to undermine and destroy the basic concept of God."
Name them. Be sure you are addressing atheism's logical errors in not accepting the existence of God and not Xianity's logical errors in supporting God.
"But the most amainzing this that they would even deny the basic deftion of God that has been around since before the middle ages; that God is necessary and eteranl."
The length of time an error has been in play doesn't make it any less of an error.
The most amazing thing here is your spelling.
"Most of them don't even know what necessary means but there they plugging away, 'God can't be necessary, whatever that is.'"
Just because some persons in the middle ages decided that "God" was necessary, does not mean that they were correct.
"Most of them think it means "there can't be a world unless "a god" created it. So they don't even understand the basic concept of necessry/contingency you try to expalni it to them and just argue with it as though 'you are not trying to expalin anything I know everything I know God can't exist cause I don't like him.'"
Necessary and contingency are not necessarily contingent on each other.
Perhaps if you would learn to spell and punctuate you would be better able to explain it to us.
"they voilaet the law of non contradiction"
Huh? The Bible is the prime example of contradiction.
"violate the law of excluded middle"
No.
"Occam's razor which they don't understand (totally stupid to think this Presit came up with an argument againt God and they dont' even know what Occams razor says, they think it means "take the simplest idea.")
What the heck are you talking about? And, yes, Occam's razor says that the simplest solution is USUALLY the correct solution.
"It's a complete destruction of civilization."
I haven't noticed civilization having been completely destroyed.
"Atheism has killed knowelde and destroyed the basis of learnign and litteracy."
Your poor spelling and punctuation might lead one to believe that it's not atheism but Xianity which kills "knowelde" and destroys the "basis of learnign and litteracy."
Atheism has killed knowelde and destroyed the basis of learnign and litteracy.
I just felt this was worth repeating.
"Hide Your Irony Meter Award?"
I am an 12th grader and I am not trying to tell you that God doesn't exist but I will tell you that you are trying to say how not believing in god has corrupted the basic princible of learning. Yet, I don't believe in god and I am at the top of my class and have a future. I even know that by you making a comment about how atheism is wrong and corrupting children in a learning enviroment, yet you can't manage to spell more than 20 words correctly. So, now what is corrupting our children.
@B.H.Streeter
They have violated every law of logic i can think of
You can think?
I know God can't exist cause I don't like him
How can an atheist dislike something that he believes doesn't exist?
"Necessary" vs "contingent" beings come mainly from Aristotle, and were covered as one of Aquinas' "five ways". It's usually called the "cosmological argument", and it's a variation of the "there can't be an infinite regress" argument. Essentially, all beings can't be "contingent" - a fancy Aristotelian jargon for "dependent on a cause". There has to be at least one "necessary" (uncaused) being to kick the whole process off.
If Streeter is familiar with Aristotle, Hume, Leibniz, Kant, etc. then he's aware of the counter-arguments. Whether the average atheist is aware of them or not doesn't affect the validity of them.
Yeah, since the Middle Ages, yeah that really means a lot in today's world. Well, I'm off to slay a few dragons and then ravash a few women when I pillage yonder town.
Wow, I can't even post a comment about this which hasn't been stated several times already. This guy is a TOTAL moron. To think that this guy is more righteous and holy than all of us (supposedly). I'll continue being an atheist. At least I know my grammar and spelling will always be better than thou art. (B.H.Streeter)
"atheists astoud [astound] me. They have violated every law of logic i can think of in an attempt to undermine and destroy the basic concept of God. But the most amainzing [amazing] this [?]that they would even deny the basic deftion [? definition] of God that has been around since before the middle ages; that God is necessary and eteranl [eternal].
Most of them don't even know what necessary means but there they [are?]plugging away, "God can't be necessary, whatever that is." Most of them think it means "there can't be a world unless "a god" created it. So they don't even understand the basic concept of necessry [necessary]/contingency you try to expalni [explain]it to them and just argue with it as though "you are not trying to expalin anything I know everything I know God can't exist cause I don't like him."
they voilaet [violate]the law of non contradiction
violate the law of excluded middle
Occam's razor which they don't understand (totally stupid to think this Presit came up with an argument againt God and they dont' [don't]even know what Occams [Occam's] razor says, they think it means "take the simplest idea.")
It's a complete destruction of civilization. Atheism has killed knowelde [knowledge] and destroyed the basis of learnign [learning] and litteracy [literacy- it's really funny that he spelt this wrong AND blamed atheists]"
1.If God isn't needed to sustain existence, how the hell is he "necessary"?
2.Occam's razor states "don't multiply entities when there's no need" which is the same as "take the simplest idea, unless there's evidence for a more complicated one". Show me evidence God exists. Go on, show me.
The mention of logic, literacy, learning and knowledge, in a post like this, isn't ironic. It's titanial.
Plenty of mocking of it's already been done, but, "Atheism has killed knowelde and destroyed the basis of learnign and litteracy," is still a classic.
IF you twist it around like that, it's no wonder atheists astound you.
It's simple, really; There is no evidence for any of the gods man has invented over the millennia. Until such evidence presents itself, we refrain from wasting time worshiping one deity or another.
Pretty logic, don't you think?
Goddidit is the simplest idea, stupid. The problem is, it raises more question than it answers.
Non-contradiction? Ever read the first and second chapter of the first book of the Bible, and compared them?
"Atheism has killed knowelde and destroyed the basis of learnign and litteracy."
Oh, and YOU haven't just now?
Normally, I'd say that some people really can be this stupid, but I'm somewhat suspicious.
I'm going to have to call troll.
Look this person can spell the words destruction, contradiction, destruction, civilization, contingency, necessary, excluded and atheist correctly. Yet they spell astound, amazing, eternal, definition, explaining, knowledge, learning, and literacy incorrectly.
This strikes me as someone who actually is educated trying to be stupid on purpose, but because spelling is so second-nature, they forgot to intentionally misspell some of the words.
@Angua.
I agree. It really does have the signs of someone trying too hard to look illiterate and stupid. I've only been a FSTDT regular for a few months, but I reckon I've already learned (most of the time anyway) to tell the real horseshit from the make believe stuff.
Although with fundies one can never be completely sure.....!
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