The earth's atmosphere also just happens to contain magnetic particles to produce gravity to keep the earth's inhabitants from floating away.
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No, no, no, no, no! Aarrgh. Gravity doesn't... the atmosphere... oh what's the fucking use. If Carico honestly believes this crap, she is beyond reasoning with.
No wonder they think science is based around fantasies and just pure making stuff up... They do it themselves, and think they're being scientific!
Then they probably think "Well, isn't that what scientists do?"
Gravity is the property of magnetic particles in the atmosphere? If that were true it would be possible to easily create, eliminate, and manipulate gravity, seeing as how magnetic particles are really, really easy to control.
I don't see why some fundies have a problem with the concept of bloody gravity. The gravity model in use by science currently is in no way in conflict with even the smallest Biblical verse. It is not contradictory to have a totally fundie literalist view of the Bible and accept the scientific model for gravity.
I just don't get it. Are they now rejecting everything that science proposes as being automatically satanic and false?
Back in Newton's day, I think it was Flamsteed who had a hypothesis about comets being a kind of magnets to explain their trajectory around the sun.
Of course, even by those days' standards, Carico's argument is more worthless than a pile of crap.
Gravity /= Magnetism.
Still, at least Carico here is dealing with REAL scientific forces, if misapplied. Better than "Satan, as Prince of the Air, keeps humans from going out in the sky without planes and stuff"
Gravity is just a theory, invented by one guy. Newtonism as its more properly called is a vain attempt to deny God. Newton even recanted on his deathbed!
Nope, no matter how hard I try I can't sound as stupid as Carico
I found a magnet laying on the desk, and there was air stuck all over it.
Pike:
You nailed it, except that they don't understand doing what they do as something other people could do, they just can't think any other way, and therefore can't conceive of anybody doing it a different way.
Sandman:
THey don't object to gravity itself, they object to the scientific method used to discover the exact behavior of gravity, because that is the same scientific method used to discover evolution.
Considering the fact that there is more atmosphere above than beneath me, how come I'm not floating somewhere in mid air? (At some point the pull from the atmosphere under me will be the same aas the pull of the atmosphere above me)
And what about wind? Is that some gravitational fluctuation? Is that why things get sucked into the air when tornados hit them?
This must be true. It cannot be that every massive particle in the universe has an attraction proportionate to the product of the particles' masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. Because if that were true, then there would not be any gravity on the starship Enterprise. And we all know that Enterprise has gravity, even when the power is off-line and life-support is failing.
This is even worse than my 8th-grade Earth science teacher insisting that gravity was the result of a planet spinning on its axis; she also got Mars and Venus switched, as well as completely misunderstood the alignment of Uranus. The woman was actually just a drill-team coach who got roped into teaching a science course, but who couldn't be bothered to read the textbook or anything; she had a lot of other eccentricities, too.
That class was the most miserable academic experience of my life, yet the stupidity of it is nothing compared to that spouted by Carico, dad, JohnR7, and others featured here. How they keep topping themselves at it, I'll never understand; in fact, I'm not sure I would want to.
This has got to get either Post of the Month or perhaps the coveted and (obviously) highly sought-after Fundie Science Expert Award. I think it might even qualify as an eventual candidate for the 2006 Post of the Year.
~David D.G.
... the FUCK? I'm trying to wrap my brain around this and it's just impossible. No sentient, rational mind could possibly come up with such a stupid statement. Therefore, I think I am justified in concluding that Carico has dust rather than a brain.
And this is definitely worthy of the Post of the Week title, but I certainly don't think it qualifies as Post of the Month. That has to go to the atheists=Muslims post.
SCIENCE POLICE... PULL OVER IMMEDIATELY MA'AM.
PLEASE GET OUT OF YOUR VEHICLE AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD. OUT OF THE CAR NOW!
... Carico, you're under arrest for violently assaulting the field of science. You have the right to remain silent. I said REMAIN SILENT dammit! Anything you say can and will be posted against you in the court of FSTDT.
*sigh*
So does that mean fundies believe in Electro-gravitism?
So that would explain why they think the speed of light isn't constant. Electro-gravitational radiation must be proportionate to the density of iron in the Earth, so it travels superfast through space which is why we can see 13.7 billion light years away when the universe is only 6,000 years old, yet round Earth it slows down to a tawdry 300,000kms-1...
OK I'll stop in case a fundie hears me and thinks I'm serious!
I don't know who's worst. JohnR7 frequently comes off as a very dedicated but non-fundie troll. dad comes up with wild fantasies that have nothing to do with reality, but Carico just blatantly refuses to accept reality.
Of course, all three could just be major trolls trying to make all fundies look just as idiotic as them. It's possible... oh crap, I went and mentioned all three in one post. At least I didn't mention Trinidad&Tobago as well... oops
*post implodes*
I gotta say it: There is no Gravity, the Earth Sucks. I feel so much better now.
Now that's a theory I could actually get behind. At least, unlike another fundie theory that gravity was the result of the pull of Hell on the sin inside people, it can also apply to animals and inanimate matter. Of course, even Nekhbet's theory works only if you don't go farther than Earth's atmosphere, or the Moon's orbit at best.
MK: well said, I think the Internet Police would also like to have a few words with Carico.
Edit: found it
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"Gravity is the property of magnetic particles in the atmosphere? If that were true it would be possible to easily create, eliminate, and manipulate gravity, seeing as how magnetic particles are really, really easy to control."
oh shit i turned on my computer and got stuck to my power supply
stupid transformers creating gravity >:(
This is even worse than my 8th-grade Earth science teacher insisting that gravity was the result of a planet spinning on its axis; she also got Mars and Venus switched, as well as completely misunderstood the alignment of Uranus. Reminds me of my Earth Science teacher who claimed that the word "Earth" was an ancient word for "water" because when the ancients looked down at the world from space, they saw it was mostly covered in water.
DUH OH!
The atmosphere contains no magnetic particles.
Gravity is a property of mass, the earth itself has mass, and therefore gravity,
this is fucking 5th grade stuff
"my Earth Science teacher who claimed that the word "Earth" was an ancient word for "water" because when the ancients looked down at the world from space, they saw it was mostly covered in water. "
I really don't know what to say to this one. Please tell me that a class full of kids pointed out the obvious and embarressed her?
Wow, I'm amazed. Carico has discovered the method by which gravity exerts its force on objects. *finds name on a huge list, strikes out "Fundie Troll" and replaces with "World's Greatest Scientist."* The king of Sweden will be by with your Nobel Prize shortly. [/sarcasm]
Seriously, what? If the "magnetic particles" are in the atmosphere, then how is it that the moon, which is basically devoid of an atmosphere, has gravity? Answer: gravity is not related to atmosphere, but to mass (which is why the Earth, which is six times more massive than the moon, exerts six times as much gravitational force).
Okay, let's explain gravity. Mass has an effect upon spac...
Oh, wait a second, it's Carico. Why waste my friggin' breath?
A couple of posters have alleged the moon has 1/6th the mass of the Earth. It doesn't. It actually has 1/81st of that mass. Its 1/6 surface gravity is due to the fact its diameter is 1/4 of that of the Earth. Being closer to the centre of gravity makes its surface gravity stronger according to the inverse square law. http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/AdaLi.shtml I mention this because we should deal with nature's facts, not make up our own. We don't want to sound like fundies after all!
No, sorry, I take that back. Those who who missate the moon's mass are at least dealing with reality, unlike Carico's caricature of physics.
BWAHAHA!
Wow, this makes me giggly happy in ways. And frightened.
I just keep picturing a Ren-fair with everyone crawling on the ground because of the gravity caused by their armor.
I don't know much about physics or geology or whatever this is, but magnetic particles in the atmosphere wouldn't do shit to keep anyone from "floating away". As the atmosphere is above the inhabitants, it would have to be some kind of pushing force to keep anything inside it.
So, no, you are wrong. This sounds so stupid, my cat is laughing at it.
Confused?
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