[On spousal rape]
If you're married I don't think it would be rape...because technically you already consented to sleeping with him when you married him. But that's a different situation. If you are married and don't want to have sex with the person then why'd you marry them?
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He isn't really saying much of anything is he? 'Oh it's not your fault that you got hit by a car, but you were in the street, but it's not your fault.'
Damn it fundies, if you are going to be backward and ignorant at least say it loud and say it proud.
As lawmakers around the US are considering legislation or a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, they should take the trouble to ban people like this from getting married as well, while they're at it.
TLC,
There is plenty of evidence for this when one simply looks at the incidence of rape following the invasion of a foreign force. Men are killed and women are raped as a means of humiliation and power/control of the vanquished. It isn't the sex drive, its the power. Many serial rapists have a separate sex life with a wife/girlfriend.
Surely the soldiers might be expected to be somewhat starved sexually?
Good point about serial rapists, tho.
(Which, I suppose, raises the next question; is there any reason to assume all rapes have the same sort of motivations?)
The Last Conformist - I don't think anything about sex or power can be summed up in one line, but I think 'rape is about power not sex' is a statement meant to combat specific myths about rape: eg. 'how can he be a rapist if he couldn't maintain an erection?' (lots of rapists are impotent with their victims) 'But he has a beautiful wife/girlfriend, so why would he rape that old woman?' (lots of rapists have plenty of opportunities for consentual sex ) 'she's a prostitute so it's no big deal that she had sex with another man' (it is not about sex - it's about him getting off on overpowering and terrifying her).
Here's a clue if it's rape:
If she says no, it's rape. I don't care if she's already naked and you're about to penetrate. I don't care if you have a ring on your finger or not. If you proceed after she says no or says "stop" you are RAPING her.
Nowhere in the vows does it say "we'll have sex." Nowhere on the marriage license does it say "We will have sex." Marriage is NOT a guarantee of sex. Get over it.
Even if you are using the old outdated vows that say "To love, honor, and obey," it doesn't mean "you will have sex."
Somehow I think Casey is a frustrated virgin and figures getting married will guarantee him lots of sex. Boy is he in for a shock.
>>"And rape isn't about sex, but about control and violence"
I'm not saying this is wrong, but I would like to see the evidence for it some day.<<
Its a crime that has basically the same violent intentions as assault, as evidenced by victims who aren't exactly sexual objects (i.e. infants or the very elderly).
So...when she agrees to marry you, it means she agrees to be your personal sex slave, ready and available to be fucked whenever you start feeling your Wheaties? Yeah, no. Doesn't work that way.
Are you fucking serious? Do you really need someone to answer this question?
I kind of feel sorry for you, you obviously don't know the difference between having mutually consexual sex and having sex because one or both people are obligated to.
Because of course when a woman marries she is her husband's property. How dare she get the idea into her silly little head that she still has the right to complete control over her own body. There is no such thing as "implied consent" to sex just because you're married to them. No means NO......just the same as if a man had said it. Oh, and please FOAD.
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