because EVE is responsible for bringing sin into the world (and not Adam) it is through women that the stain of original sin travels through every human being alive today, or has ever been alive or who will ever be alive. Men do not transmit original sin, but receive original sin by being borne of women.
For this reason, women are not allowed to teach men, or lead men, or have any authority over men in any way, shape or fashion -- because Satan knows what the weakest link to tempting man is through a woman.
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God brought sin into the world, if you wanna blame anyone. Let's look at the facts:
1) He knows everything before it happens. So he makes a tree with fruit that he says will kill Adam and Eve to even touch, then says "Don't touch that! I made it to taunt you!".
2) Eve touches it, and doesn't die. God evidently was joking about that. Plus he knew she'd touch it anyway.
3) He made a talking snake to coaxe her INTO taking and eating the fruit. Remember, god knows everything, so he knew it would happen.
4) Adam eats it too, and gets a slap on the wrist compared to Eve. Oh, and the snake gets cursed to crawl on his belly forever. Yeah, a SNAKE gets cursed to crawl on his BELLY.
So it all comes down to god. Oh, and stupid people who would rather believe this crap than any rational theory :P
Is there a misogyny sale on somewhere? Stop blaming everything on women! They do not cause hurricanes, tsunamis, droughts, plagues, etc. Get over your own inadequacies. Your life is total crap because of you and not your mother! Now return to the mailroom and organise some papers!
If women are the weakest link, why is it the men who predominantly:
___start wars,
___steal,
___murder,
___lie,
___torture,
___rape,
___blaspheme,
___curse,
___etc.?
Are women going around nagging men to commit every evil act? Even the losers and loners who can't even talk to a woman are corrupted by their just being out there somewhere? Personally, I think I have a far more parsimonious theory: testosterone.
Oh, yes... That would explain why the greatest evil people in history are women... just like Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Attila the Hun and Fred Phelps.
God created evil. God refrained from teaching Adam and Eve right from wrong, therefore they are not to be held responsible for doing something they did not know to be "bad."
Remember, even if God told them not to do so, they did not know that going against God was bad. Or "not good" since they had no knowlege of the concept of "good" or "bad".
Then why don't you become a monk? Or, better yet, why don't you become gay? But, then, homosexuality is a "sin," isn't it. How 'bout this, find yourself a dull hatchet and remove your genitals, then you won't be so tempted by those evil women.
So he makes a tree with fruit that he says will kill Adam and Eve to even touch, then says "Don't touch that! I made it to taunt you!"
That's the essence; everything else is just accidents. That's what makes it clear that the "God" of the Bible has, to elucidate a famous observation made by (Douglas Adams through) Ford Prefect, the kind of mind that likes leaving hats on the sidewalk with bricks under them, because it amuses him to watch what happens when people kick those hats out of their way.
ah, but Amos, you're forgetting fundy logic.
Wars - probably done for a woman (see Helen of Troy)
Steal - probably stealing something for a woman or to impress a woman
Murder - probably for a woman or killing a woman who won't understand how much you love her
Lie - probably to impress a woman
Torture - probably to impress a woman
Rape - no such thing, just a woman who tempted you and then tried to back out on the deal
Blaspheme - probably because of some woman driving you crazy
Curse - probably to impress a woman
See? Still all your mother's fault.
I just wanted to make a note here, for those of you who might not be veiwing the page in Top-First format. The post immediately after this one in my view here Has the exact same sentiment, and in fact nearly the same words!
The deal about women being weapons or tools of Satan used to tempt men shows up in both. The other one is from an Islamic Cleric in Australia, spewing the same putrid. misogynistic crap.
God created Satan, as there was nothing besides him in Creation. God is omnipotent, meaning he knows what is going to happen. He lied about the Tree of Knowledge. He knew about the snake and let Adam off almost without any punishment.
Doesn't it say that God created Woman and say that it was good?
Perhaps I missed something about Jesus. It was my understanding that sin carried through men, which is why everyone ever born was inherently sinful. Consequently, this is why Mary was impregnated by the "Holy Spirit" and which is why Jesus was ultimately "devoid" of sin.
If sin carries through the woman, then Jesus was also born of sin. At least, this is in accordance with the tri-omni God's irrefutable logic, so to speak.
If we follow such a train of thought, including a sinful Jesus, have we not undermined the supposed infallible nature of the Bible from which you've drawn such a statement?
Essentially, by logical connection, you've refuted yourself.
So, it takes a man and a woman to make a child (those half-souls have to join up somehow) and everyone has sin - men because they were born from a woman and women because they are women - but yet men don't propagate sin. How can this be?
The ovaries are dirtier than the testicles!
Apparently, my impure thoughts never make it to my nether regions. My little guy is happy to hear that!
The whole original sin thing has never made logical sense. Why should God punish the whole human race for what Adam and Eve did? If your grandparents were Bonnie and Clyde, should you go to jail for it?
So Eve was tempted by Satan, and Adam, in turn, was tempted by Eve. If God didn't want the fruit eaten, why should He care who was tempted by whom? They both disobeyed Him. If your kid breaks the window playing ball in the house, are you going to blame the dog for bringing him the ball and let the kid off the hook?
Besides, Adam wasn't especially tempted. The Bible just says "she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat" (Gen 3:6). He didn't argue with her or get talked into it. He wasn't seduced - in fact, before they ate the fruit, there was no such thing as carnal desire (Gen 2:25 - And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed). He made his own choice.
Besides, I thought the Christian idea is that Jesus wiped all that out.
If women are the weak link, it's god's fault. If god is such an asshole that he would create something only to make it faulting in a way to punish it, I'll enjoy telling him off.
If you're full of it, I'll sell tickets to your approach to the big guy.
If I'm right, nothing happens at all.
I beat you no matter what, enjoy knowing that.
Here we go again. Proudly marching into the 10th century, are we? Just when you thought that there were enough stupid fucktards blaming women for things, especially after yesterday's debacle with the muslim mufti, along comes this genius to villify women even further. Women should have authority, women should teach men and I would personally like to see more women in the government. Maybe this way those evil fundie fucks would learn something and start to respect women.
the stain of original sin
Hm, could you perhaps be using this as a synonym for menstruation?
Ah, the old, 'women are the source of evil in the world' argument.
You fail at life. It must be lonely never having been laid by a woman, and your overwhelming homosexual desires are looked upon with scowls and howls by your bible.
On the bright side this nitwit should never be able to pass along his 'evil' seed, and therefore this one particular lineage of fucktardedness will die with him.
Yeah, and we know that Adam was supposed to work the land, and I´m not seeing many farmers today. And just a question, do you know if Satan has ever trasmutated again into a speaking serpent?, or there is a missing daughter from Adam and Eve who becomes Caine´s wife?, and why men profit more the "original sin" than women?
OK that guy is just batshit insane. I mean, really. He just can't accept that males might be less than perfect. He claims that God, a spiritual being according to the Bible, is identifiably male. So God has a dick. How.....interesting.
And if men are so good and women are so bad, why is the vast majority of crime, especially violent crimes, committed by men?
OK, this guy (I'm assuming only a man would use this reasoning although you never know) really has the whole thing upside down.
The story of the fall shows us why MEN are weak and not fit to lead. It took the devil himself with all his wiles to tempt Eve, but Adam just did what she said. The story shows how Adam was weak and unable to think for himself.
For this reason men are not allowed teach, lead or to have any authority over women, because a man is incapable of resisting if a woman tells him to do something. So men are very vulnerable - there are about as many women in the world as men so they cannot be expected to maintain a consistent opinion or follow a consistent set of rules with all those women telling them different things.
While a woman could be drawn into sin if tricked by the devil, there is only one devil - so women aren't as vulnerable as men. So women must always have authority over men otherwise terrible things will happen. How many female leaders are there in the world today? I think that proves my point.
There is further proof for this. The devil didn't tempt Adam - why? Because Adam would never have been able to convince Eve to eat the apple.
Hey, this is fun. You really can use the bible to justify anything!
So...if women are the pitiful, weak, stupid, and inherently evil ones, and men are so easily corrupted by women...doesn't that mean men are weaker than women?
NOW I understand the fundie thinking! Women are dangerous and can't be allowed to be seen as equal to men because really, we're all evil harlots who make men completely lose control of themselves and take away their ability to make their own decisions. It's all our fault and we should be locked away, except to pump out babies and be obedient to our Godly husbands because they're completely perfect and lily-white and sinless.
...yeah. o_O God, save me from your batshit insane followers, PLZKTHNZ.
Adam ate the fruit too, idiot. What's more, he wasn't tempted by the devil. He wasn't even tempted by Eve. He just dumbly took a piece of apple from her hand, willingly disobeying God. I don't know about you, but I'd say that makes him weaker than Eve.
Is there absolutely nothing that fundies cannot blame on women?
Toaster broken? It's a woman's fault!
Toilet overflowing? It's backed up with Eve's original sin!
Got a dicky knee? It's that damn woman at the store! I knew I shouldn't let her handle my prescription. She taints it with original sin!
Bla, bla, bla...this has been going on for fucking millenia . I want to invent a time machine just so I can go back and assassinate the first Christian -- before he tells anyone else.
... and in the end, your "prefect God fearing society" will fall apart like the one in "Lord of the Flies"
... don't remind me of that book.
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