Whats wrong with using the text to prove the bible? Like i said before..thats like proving the president is in the whitehouse by looking into the whitehouse.
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Translation: "It's true because it says it's true, and it's the Bible, so it wouldn't lie."
This reasoning isn't just circular; it's got infinite recursive loops like a Spirograph(TM) drawing.
~David D.G.
Looking into the White House and seeing the President gives you good evidence that the President is in the White House. It says nothing about the President's veracity.
In the same way, looking into the Bible and finding text gives you good evidence that there is text in the Bible. It says nothing about the text's veracity.
Pertinent analogy, though.
No, that's incorrect. Using bible text to prove the infallibility of the bible is not like that at all. One can interpret biblical text in any fashion to "prove" anything. The failure is in the orginal assumption that the bible is anything more than a 3rd century BCE compilation of Hebrew folk-tales and prevarications, foisted upon gullible people for the purpose of controlling them.
No, Ezekiel (I think I recall an insane character named Ezekiel on one of the Johnny Quest shows...), using the Bible to prove the Bible is like using LotR to prove that Frodo existed. Both are dry, very long stories with text that confuses many people.
Whether or not the president is in the White House answers the question "Is the president in the White House?" The fact that something's written in the Bible answers the question "Is there something written in the Bible."
More complex questions such as "Is the RIGHT president in the White House?" or "Is a competent president in the White House?" remain unanswered, as do the complex questions of "How many literally TRUE are written in the Bible?" and "How many things written in the Bible are actually moral?"
To find these answeres you'd have to go outside the narow context where they exist and compare them to the facts and philosophies of the outside world. The testimonies from the subject matter (The scripture itself, George Bush) or those with a vested interest with the subject matter (the unquestioningly devout, Dick Cheney) should be called into question so that factual evidence is not obfuscated.
"Whats wrong with using the text to prove the bible?"
What about using text to prove The Hobbit, Haryy Potter, or Cinderella?
Confused?
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