When you feel a presence like that, then something has been brought into the house that is not of God, our Lord Jesus Christ.
So, you had your pastor come out and pray over your house and things were alright, and then you read VAMPIRE books, and then things are bad.
Burn your vampire books, and get your pastor back.
["Okay, I'm burning those books if not discarding them in other ways... Thanks for your help everybody!"]
My dear sister, you missed the point---BURN THEM. Don't pass them onto anyone else, such as discarding them. BURN THEM!
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Why must fire be involved? At the very least, you can shred them (although that's still nuts. If demonic power can be attributed to something simply because of FICTIONAL (90% likely in this case) SUBJECT matter, I'll eat my shirt.)
Fire is not godly, either. Fire is more closely associated with Satan than with God. (Hellfire? Fire and brimstone?) Thus, setting something on fire is an act of glorifying Teh Debbil.
Elijah, you sinner!
@ The Missus --
There's also G-d destroying cities with fire, angels with flaming swords, the burning bush, etc. Even the eternal torment by fire of anyone who's not enough of a True Christian is, in that cosmology, done at the orders of G-d for His entertainment and the entertainment of the True Christians.
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!111!!!!!eleven factorial
And for his next trick, Elijah2 will burn random innocent women for being witches. Boy, isn't paranoia and anti-intellectualism fun?
Ok... here's a deal:
If you want to burn books, we get to burn you first. If your God decides you're pure enough to survive that, you can do whatever you want.
What's that, you don't want to do that anymore? Why, afraid you aren't as pure as you thought? o.o
You gotta wonder what's being pumped into these kid's heads when a normal nightmare from reading something scary at bedtime is blown into an attempted satanic possession and demonic attack. This kid is scared as shit of her own shadow, and these fools at Christian forum are feeding that from their own paranoia.
Funny thing is, the Vampire books don't make claims to be true. They are admitted fiction. So you are following one book of fiction that doesn't like other books of fiction. If you could only understand how ludicrous that is.
Your life and your actions are all built around a framework of complete fiction.
So which books exactly are acceptable to bring into the house except as kindling? I wonder if Elijah2 would like for me to burn my Darwin, Sagan and other science? How about Tolkien for that matter?
P.S. I'd like to say a little something to my voyeur fellow employees who feel the need to pry into my private life in general and my internet posts in particular. (yes I mean you c.k. and t.g. among others)
"f#$k you! Eat s@#t and die!"
This activity should include burning the computer, the cooker, the microwave..........you know, none of them are exactly "of God".
"Where exactly in the bible does it say to do that then?"
Ah no, you see, this is Elijah 2 !
He's, like, a whole new prophet from God ready to bring down fire from the sky! In hardback!
Mind you, I'm not that against the burning of Anne Rice novels, just on grounds of taste.
;-)
There is just a little problem with all that. Ok, so, demons, vampires and the such are supernatural beings who don't obey any known rule of physics and nature. They can force you to make things you don't want to and so powerful that, with the tech we have and so on, you can't beat them. Ok, so, why is fire or a prayer going to stop them?, any logic?. If you are going to make it up, make it up completely and don't be so cheeky as to use a computer, if you believe medieval tricks.
Why do they assume that if someone feels a 'presence' then it must be the devil/a demon. Why couldn't it be god? Envy is a sin Elijah.
(ok, I know god doesn't exist, but I was making a point)
@Ambrielle - God doesn't hang around where vampire books are present, just like he can't be around sinners in heaven.
Fundies will tell you that with a straight face, never noticing the contradictions.
Bram Stoker would laugh at you, and then drink all your whiskey.
You're so paranoid and delusional, it's funny. Hee.
Funny, I have not only read vampire books, I have also PLAYED Vampire the Masquerade.
Don't recall any demons or feeling like something was sitting on me. Just a lot of fun dressing up and pretending.
Y'know, just the other day I was reading a book about vampires and half way through, there was a heavy weight on my lap and chest and a piercing pain in my neck (well, shoulder, but it's close enough).
Then again, my dad has an attention seeking cat with sharp claws and a weird tendancy to rest on my chest even when I'm sat upright.
"Burn your vampire books, and get your pastor back."
And get your pastor back? What, did he leave her? If you have to burn books to get that guy back, are you really sure he's worth it?
"Where they burn books, they will, in the end, burn human beings too."
Heinrich Heine, 1821
Would burning books have any effect on the demons or whatever supposedly inhabit them? I mean, these creatures are used to flames and high temperature, living in a lake of fire and all that. Wouldn't they be impervious to fire?
Living one's life based on mythology and superstion is bad enough, but the lack of internal consistency must make it dang near impossible.
No, she should get a bucket of liquid nitrogen, dip the book in there, and then drop it. Much more godly than burning it like the debbil woul like you to do.
Reminds me of the fear of smurfs in the Jehovah's Witnesses. They also believe in cursed objects. Anything that may possibly have been in contact or around someone supposedly "practicing spiritism" (for them that includes many things including using drugs), might have demons attached to them. Then if you have such an object in your house, it can supposedly be the reason for your mental problems, like having nightmares or anxiety. Or for your marital problems, or whatever. Superstition is dangerous. Flawed causal relationships. This means that suddenly someone can begin to wonder: "oh, maybe, maybe I have an object in the house that explained that I was recently fired... Or that Christie no longer wants to attend Church..." And go burn anything including the belongings of others. Poor people.
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