Jerry #fundie

Jerry #fundie fstdt.com

FundieVision Inc.: Sorry Jerry, I used to be a saved God fearing Christian who believed in The Rapture, Hell, and all the good stuff. I left xtianity behind at sixteen for damned good reasons. So I want no part of Jeebus the Jewish Zombie and his nutjob psychopathic manchild of a father.

Jerry: FundieVision:

Can I tell you a little secret? I think I will anyway. You were NEVER a Christian. You were NEVER Saved. How do I know that? Because there is no such thing as ex-Christian! You cannot un-believe something, and you certainly cannot un-believe Jesus. 1 John 2:19 In Christianity, we call it the doctrine of Perseverance of the Saints.

You can also think of it this way: say you never seen an airplane, then you had to fly somewhere and you were on one, would you ever then claim that airplanes don't exist? Would ever say to someone that you "used to believe in airplanes, but not any more"? Just the same a Christian can NEVER become an ex-Christian.

You are depraved, sick, and filthy, and Jesus hates you. (Ps. 5:5, Rom. 1) But I have good news for you: it doesn't have to be this way! Even someone like you may be forgiven and Saved from all the filth, sickness, and depravity. All you got to do is believe in the true Jesus of the Christian Bible (not in the Catholic Jesus or the Mormon Jesus or any other false Jesus), repent of your sins, and ask Him into your heart and into your life, so that there is no sin, filth, or despair any more. Turn or burn, the choice is yours, and you alone are to blame for the consequences.

In the name of the Lord,
Jerry

61 comments

old comment by Zachski

Here's a secret.

People like this are secretly terrified. They're terrified they might lose their faith. They're terrified that they will stop believing. They're terrified that everything they have believed in will be a lie. So they build mental walls to protect themselves from that fear.

You can unbelieve something.

And sometimes, you don't have a choice.

By beating their chest and proudly proclaiming their faith, like the mythological pharisees of the Bible, they can pretend that they're God's favored ones. (not that pharisees themselves are mythological, just that the characters in the Bible likely are)

The ones who crow loudest about their faith are the ones whose faith is at its weakest, and deep down, they know this, though they'll deny it to their grave. Which explains a lot about fundamentalists.

By the way, Jerry, what you stated here is a form of Calvinism. Have fun with that.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Zachski

And Jerry here is scared of the likes of Jonathan Edwards; OSAS, and all that jazz. The ex-fundies who are commenters here in FSTDT can testify to the fact that it is possible, Jer.

Remember: Romans 11:26-32 - which destroys John 14:6, and thus Christianity as a whole - means that, as all Jews are going to Heaven (and Jews don't recognise your J-boy as their 'Messiah'), due to their 'Disobedience', thus we Atheists & LGBT people are going to Heaven too, via Rom. 11:30-32, and our equal 'Disobedience' (being Atheist and/or homosexual), then Jonathan Edwards having his Salvation cake & eating it as an Atheist via OSAS, means you're in no position to question his 'Saved' status. But then, you don't know what the fuck you are, in terms of being a Christian, that gives you even less right to be judgemental towards anyone else.

My best friend - a long-time Church of England Christian - when he fills in forms which asks that relevant question, or in the Census every ten years, refers to himself as 'Anglican'. Simple enough, eh, Jer? So what's your excuse?

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@#1859991

"@Jerry: If you're not Catholic, Protestant, Mormon, Gnostic, or Eastern Orthodox, but you're Christian, then you belong to a splinter cult like the Branch Davidians. Or you don't know what "Protestant" means.
Also, the OT specifically forbids men from cutting their hair or rounding the corners of their beard.
And if Jews are Satanists (or your redefinition of the term), then Jesus was a Satanist. And all Christians follow a holy book written by and for Satanists.
And what sect did King James belong to, again? (Never mind the KJV being a terrible translation of the original texts, and being easily misunderstood by anyone who doesn't speak Shakespearean English.)"

Jerry can't answer simple questions such as 'Is the the KJV the only version to be trusted, is utterly flawless in every conceivable way, and is the absolute word of your God, as authorised by a past monarch (King James I) of my country, Britain? Is it, or isn't it...?', and 'Is King James I saved? Yes or No?',

But as I say: He's no more a Christian than I am the Archbishop of Canterbury.

@Nomen Nescio

"looks like jerry's some form of degenerate calvinist, yes. those do tend to be generally beyond reason."

And as demonstrated by the retard in question above your post, Jerry = Westboro Baptist Church.

They say essentially the same thing as he does.

Oh, and it's not wise to piss off the very admin of the board you're on here and now, Jer.

As they say on 4chan, 'Mods are GODS'; and if mere mods can ban your arse, therefore...! >:D

old comment by Churchy LaFemme

Jerry, I was raised Protestant, and we don't have Saints, so no Perseverance of Saints. Sounds more like Catholics, but you say Catholics aren't Christian.

The Christian Bible is filled with contradictions -- who were the first people at Jesus' tomb on Sunday morning? Who did they find there. To whom did Jesus first appear after the Resurrection? If your book can't agree on such a critical element of Christianity, it can't possibly be The Truth.

By the way, it's easy to become an ex-believer. I used to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. I'm now an ex-Santa and ex-EB believer. Your plane example is poorly phrased. If I believe heavier-than-air flight is impossible and then travel in an airplane, I'll quickly become an ex-believer.

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"Would ever say to someone that you "used to believe in airplanes, but not any more"?

I accept that airplanes exist, because I have seen them on a daily basis, touched them, and flown in them. I can travel to an airport any time I wish and as many times as I wish and see even more evidence that they exist. I can speak with pilots and other passengers and confirm through their experience that they exist. I can test and validate that they exist by purchasing a ticket and using them to travel to a remote destination.

If the only evidence that I had that invisible airplanes existed were other people saying so, and some ancient book of mythology saying so, I would likely come to the conclusion based on the available evidence that airplanes did not exist, and that the people claiming they did were very likely delusional. Even if thousands or millions of people said they exist, without any more evidence than "they say so" I would still not be justified in accepting they exist.

I do not accept that invisible gods exist because I have never seen them, touched them, or have any other verifiable, testable, repeatable evidence that they exist. Just because someone else says they do, or claims some ancient book of mythology is evidence they exist, I would likely (for the exact same reasons as for the invisible airplanes) come come to the conclusion based on the available evidence that invisible gods do not exist, and that the people claiming they do are very likely delusional.

old comment by Skeptimistic

You can also think of it this way: say you never seen an airplane, then you had to fly somewhere and you were on one, would you ever then claim that airplanes don't exist?

How do you know you actually flew? Maybe it's an elaborate ruse which uses flat screen tvs in place of windows (you can't actually open them up, right?) and moving simulator to give you the illusion of flight. Halfway through the "flight" they gas everyone to sleep, load you on underground supersonic buses, put you back in the simulator on the other end, reset everyone's watches and gas you back awake just before you "land". I think it stands up as well to scrutiny as your magic zombie theory.

But you can see them flying overhead you say? Holograms.

old comment by freako104

Jerry seems to be working toward making Jesus and Christians look bad. In this quote he talks about how Jesus hates Fubdievision, and has said Jesus hates the rest of us non-Christians as well. He says that non-Christians are satanists. This show a great lack of knowledge about other belief systems as well as the lack of any faith. This tends, though he might be unaware, to not make the other beliefs look evil but tends to justcmake satan not seem as bad. Makes me wonder the following

1 Is jerry a satanist poe or troll showing the worst parts of Christianity?

Or

2 Is he really Christian but just a huge failure at it?

Satan is supposed to make god look bad. Which jerry does a fantastic job of doing. And his words drive people from Christ. Again satan's job.

old comment by the_ignored

Jerry said:
Can I tell you a little secret? I think I will anyway. You were NEVER a Christian. You were NEVER Saved. How do I know that? Because there is no such thing as ex-Christian! You cannot un-believe something, and you certainly cannot un-believe Jesus. 1 John 2:19 In Christianity, we call it the doctrine of Perseverance of the Saints.

This is a perfect example of the complete, pure fucking ARROGANCE of faith.

How well did you know the person who you made that message to, Jerry?

How fucking stupid is it of you, to take the word of a book with talking animals, people raising from the dead, and failed prophecies as so-called "proof" that the person you were talking to was never a christian, even though NO evidence to the contrary was ever given by him.

You will never hear that kind of bullshit in science, where one scientist will change his mind about the accuracy of some theory because of the evidence, while another one says that the first scientist never believed in the theory in the first place.

Only religion is that dogmatic, arrogant, and christ-fucking stupid.

old comment by Canadiest

"How do I know that?"

You don't Jerry, you just don't.

You have no such insight and your primitive book states insects have four legs and contradicts itself rendering it untruthful and obviously a compiled book of rewritten myths. An inconsistent tome of nonsense is no place to seek answers.

And by the way Jerry, if he was never a believer as you claim there's no way short of a major brain change, concussion, lobotomy and intense brainwashing procedures, to make him one.

Believing in Gods is immensely childish, I don't care who you think you can site otherwise, it just proves the best of intellects or dullards still have that child inside.

old comment by Dizzy Dripping

"You cannot un-believe something"

I used to believe that snow, rain and hail were caused by small children sitting on clouds and chucking it onto the earth in little plastic buckets.

I used to believe that babies were made by mothers eating boiled eggs with sunflower seeds given to them by their husband stuck inside them based on my parents' description of baby-making. ("Mummy has the egg and Daddy has the seed. And we put the egg and the see in Mummy's tummy so it will grow into a baby")

Obviously I don't believe in these things now because I know how babies are made and how we get rain, hail and snow.

"You are depraved, sick and filthy, and Jesus hates you"

If Jesus hates us so much then why should we give Him the time of day? You make him sound like an MRA who goes on about how evil and disgusting women are and then wonders why none of them will go out with him.

old comment by Jerry

The appropriately-named "ignored":

"This is a perfect example of the complete, pure fucking ARROGANCE of faith.

How well did you know the person who you made that message to, Jerry? "

What I said is a perfect example of Truth. I don't need to know that person. I don't need to know anything about those persons, other than that they said they are not Christians.

The Bible teaches that once a person becomes a true Christian, he can NEVER renounce the true Faith. Likewise Bible teaches that those that claimed Christianity, but then renounced it, were NEVER truly Christian to begin with.

Real Christians believe the Bible. The Christian Bible says so, we believe so. You say something, we don't really care.

So if the Bible teaches that there is no such thing as an ex-Christian, only satanists that pretended to be Christians, that's the way it is.

In the name of the Lord,
Jerry

old comment by FundieVision Inc

@ Jerry

'Tacks up a big sign labeled SARCASM"

Well you got me now Jerry, I was never a Christian, but a Satanist all along hoping to tear down the church for my secret masters in the New World Order who serve Satan. what they didn't know is that I served an even darker power. His Holy Pastaness The Flying Sphagetthi Monster. I was a part of the Illumanti group infiltrating the Christian church from a very young age and was raised in a Wiccan Satanic Cult where we danced naked every night, sacrificed to the Goddess, practiced black magic, and we burned Bibles Jer.

I also host wild homosexual orgies, promote atheism, encourage women to be immodest, feast on the heads of babies, listen to satanic heavy metal, kick puppies, steal kids candy, and I 'never' help little old ladies across the street.

Aren't I such a bastard Jerry?

old comment by FundieVision Inc

@ Jerry
"prods Jerry with stick and snaps picture for posterity"

Here children we see the common species of the Idios Fundemenalist in its natural habitat. Crikey! It's a big one, look at the size of that judgement.

So every non-Christian is automatically a Satanist? Didn't Jesus say not to judge and love thy neighbor as thyself?

So every non Christian is automatically filthy, depraved, and horrible?

Great game plan Jerry, judge everyone and declare yourself speshul and morally superior. It makes you look like a stand up guy and is sure to drive lots of people to your so called Elect.

Your particular brand of Christianity is unplesant and pretty vile Jer. Sensitivity training at The School of Michael Scott and Dwight Schrute might help! If you do well, we might even let you visit with Pam Beesly.

You've failed to answer several very important questions Jerry. Do you think the King James Bible is the perfect unerring word of God? Do you feel homosexual urges Jerry?

Does God talk to you directly?

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Crybaby Jerry

"There is only one true Christianity--Biblical Christianity"

Which Bible do you use, Jer? KJV? What version?

If you were secure in your faith, you would have no problem in answering that question; just as my best friend - a long-time Church of England Christian (and for far longer than you little boy) - has no problem, when filling in a form, or the ten-yearly Census, and the relevant question comes up, in answering that question 'Anglican'.

In his huge book collection, he has just about all versions of the Bible. But he himself uses the KJV. That authorised by a past monarch of my country: Britain. That authoriser: King James I: Head of the Protestant Church of England; Defemder of the Faith.

Just as Queen Elizabeth II is head of the C-of-E, and is defender of the Protestant faith; she uses the KJV too. As a devout Christian herself, she has no problem in admitting she is an Anglican and uses that particular version: the KJV. As that past monarch authorised such, and is used by the C-of-E, so does she: monarch of the UK in the 21st Century.

As does my best friend. Who is an Anglican.

Why so insecure, nay, evasive, Jer...?!