Just because I don't support gay marriage does not mean that I "hate" gays. Do you agree with me?
I honestly wish that all businesses and churches would just deny gays their services. I really do. It's not that I hate gays. It's that I love them SO much, and I just don't want them to go to hell... They need an incentive to be normal. That's the only way to stop them from giving in to their fetishes and perversions. They refuse to get help on their own, so it is our duty as a society to help them ourselves. We really do care for them. We care about them so much that we won't let them make the biggest mistake of their entire lives (and afterlives). Why is that such a problem to liberals? It's beyond my understanding. Gay relationships (not gay people) are sinful and wrong in the eyes of God. Love the people. Hate the sin.
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1) How would denying gays service at all churches and businesses persuade gays of your case? The Metropolitan Community Church has been a gay-friendly church since the 1960s and gays run plenty of businesses - if you saw gays as rounded human beings rather than flat characters in need of salvation, you might get to understand that you are sorely misguided. But if you understood that, you wouldn't be a Christian fundie.
"It's not that I hate gays. It's that I love them SO much,"
"I don't hate black people, I just don't think the races should mix."
Hmm, I don't see much of a difference.
Do you agree with me?
No.
Yes it does. Now your idea of "love" is pretty much the rest of the world's idea of hate.
I love you so much that I want you to realize that Hell is a delusion and does not exist. That I want you to realize that the world is not black and white and that there are no supernatural forces fighting for your soul. I do that out of Love and my love does not feel like hate.
" It's not that I hate gays. It's that I love them SO much, and I just don't want them to go to hell..."
I don't believe you. Why aren't you advocating this treatment for other types of "sinners"? Why not for your fellow fundies who are known liars or adulterers? Is that a little too close to home?
You don't hate gays at all. However, you have bought into a toxic ideology that preaches pretty blatant hatred for gays....... oh, wait, let me put it into words that you can understand.
The Bible doesn't preach hatred of gays. It says that they are all rapists (Sodom) and violent people who invent ways of being violent (Book of Romans). It says that the being who believers worship blindly is so angry at them that he will smite entire nations as a result of gays. It says that gays, rather than simply be permitted to die, will be kept alive in a state of perpetual torture, because NOTHING can sate this Yahweh creature's thirst for the suffering of gays.... I mean, uh, "justice". The only way to get Yahweh to back off and let them die is for them to swallow every bit of dogma from the religion and basically start hating themselves, agreeing that they deserve to be tortured for the crime of birth.
If the Quran said that (and it does), you would rightfully call it a hate book. Now why not apply that same standard to the Bible?
"We care about them so much that we won't let them make the biggest mistake of their entire lives (and afterlives). Why is that such a problem to liberals?"
Here goes: no matter how strongly you folks BELIEVE there's an afterlife and a God, that belief isn't EVIDENCE that either actually does exist!
Do you agree with me?
Nope.
"Just because I don't support gay marriage does not mean that I "hate" gays."
'I'm not racist, but ...!'
A person's colour . A person's lifestyle.
When that tiny titbit of Leviticus never applied to Gentiles like you, then you don't even have the right to an excuse any more. You simply don't have the guts to be completely honest: 'Men kissing men is ICKY! EW!'.
Your 'God'. Abraham & Isaac: thus he Lied . Putting in the family way another man's betrothed, Mary: thus he committed Adultery ; also putting in said fanmily way a child bride: thus he committed the worse -than crime of Paedophilia. Hosea 13:16: thus he's a Murder and Abortionist.
Hate the God .
I honestly hope that the IRS would deny all right-wing Fundamental ist Christain churches & related organisations their tax-exemption. Because you admit that yours isn't a religion, but 'A personal relationship with Jesus'.
Hate the tax dodger. [/Kent Hovind]
Ah, yes, a typical "no, except yes" fallacy. You're not fooling anyone, jackass. You clearly hate them.
When part of your plan is the eradication of a group of people (either through mortal extermination or by other means), that can hardly be described as "loving" them. No, you hate them. When you envision a world in which they do not exist, and hold that world as the ideal, that is hate.
They refuse to get help on their own, so it is our duty as a society to help them ourselves.
If you're so all-fired concerned about the welfare of others, why not start by having universal health care and outlawing smoking? I mean, if you're going to intrude on others "for their own good", you might as well start with stuff that would actually work.
How sweet of you. I'm sure people who find themselves excluded from all businesses will appreciate your kind intentions.
"We care about them so much that we won't let them make the biggest mistake of their entire lives..." What you mean is that you care about your own opinion so much that you're willing to persecute someone for not doing as you tell them. You are a complete asshole. Trust me, I am not telling you that because I love you.
You don't hate gays but you believe that they shouldn't be allowed to buy things in shops, purchase electricity or clean water for their houses, buy food or go to restaurants, or be allowed on buses or trains...
"I don't hate gays, I just wish they'd be totally persecuted until they change their sexual orientation."
And then has the balls to end with the tired old "love the sinner, hate the sin" bullshit. If you really loved the people, you wouldn't be in favor of discriminating against them until they go away.
Salvation by works, fiat, or faith (depending on denomination of Christianity). None of those includes "And no gayness". Study your own rules, dude.
You want to evangelize to the homo/bisexual crowd? Stop telling them to get back in the closet and practice celibacy. If you can't manage that, bugger off.
No, we don't agree with you. You want to stop people legalizing already existing relationships.
Let's deny paraplegics the use of wheelchairs; they also need an incentive to be normal, don't they?
Gays don't refuse to get help; there IS no “help” to get. Ex-gay therapy doesn't work, corrective rape doesn't work, nothing “works”. They are simply born that way, asshole!
Gay people have gay relationships. If you hate the relationships, it spills over to the people too, numbskull.
Are you this ferociously against shellfish-eating, and loving towards shellfish-eaters too?
Just because I don't support christian marriage does not mean that I "hate" christians. Do you agree with me?
I honestly wish that all businesses and churches would just deny christians their services. I really do. It's not that I hate christians. It's that I love them SO much, and I just don't want them to go to hell... They need an incentive to be normal. That's the only way to stop them from giving in to their fetishes and perversions. They refuse to get help on their own, so it is our duty as a society to help them ourselves. We really do care for them. We care about them so much that we won't let them make the biggest mistake of their entire lives (and afterlives). Why is that such a problem to conservatives? It's beyond my understanding. Christian relationships (not christian people) are sinful and wrong in the eyes of Jupiter. Love the people. Hate the sin.
Finding-to-English translated version:
"I love gays. I love them so much I wish they didn't exist. Why won't liberals tolerate and support initiatives to help gays stop existing? Liberals are so intolerant. It's beyond my understanding."
Are you really so thick that you don't realize how you sound to other people?
"Just because I don't support gay marriage does not mean that I "hate" gays. Do you agree with me?"
Just because I - a Hull City supporter - don't support Chelsea, does not mean that I hate that football team.
Even though they knocked us off the top of the Premier League after a brief moment of glory for us.
Just because I don't support Arsenal, does not mean that I hate that football team.
Even though they beat us in the 2014 FA Cup Final: the very first time Hull City have made it to the ultimate competition in English football.
Just because I don't support the national team of North Korea, doesn't mean that I hate that football team.
Even though their knocking out Italy - the favourites to win - ultimately ensured England won the 1966 World Cup. Just ask the people of Middlesborough to this day.
Do you disagree with me?
Because you don't know tolerance until you've seen the fans - after a derby game - of the rugby league teams Hull Kingston Rovers & Hull FC streaming out of the KC Stadium: together ; usually heading for the nearby pubs: together .
Same-sex marriage legalised in the UK a couple of years ago.
Do you see the comparison? It's beyond your understanding.
No, i don't think that you 'hate' gays.
I think that you are terrified that you may be one. I think that, in the dark of night, when it's just you and your inner fantasies, occasional images of rock hard muscles, stiff cocks and sweat slowly dripping from a moustache, pop, unbidden, into your thoughts. And that scares you a lot.
Gay marriage leads to:
Gay divorce
ETC.
All of these problems and similar results of Gay Marriage will result in endless lawsuits and criminal prosecutions. This will raise the demand for lawyers. I am from a family of lawyers, and we can certainly use the additional business. That is why I am in favor of Gay Marriage. This may sound cynical, and it is deliberately so. Gay Marriage is a GOLD MINE for the legal profession.
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