[Certainly you know that only a very few fringe scientists reserve acceptance of the Theory of Evolution. As theories go, it's very well accepted.]
The Bible is also very well accepted. Up to 97% of the people accept the Bible. More than what accepts the theory of evolution.
The difference is if you accept man's theory of evolution, then you have low standards. If you accept the Bible, you have high standards because God sets a much higher standard for us then we would set for ourselves. Evolution is false simply because it is a man made theory.
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Well, argument by popularity IS a logical fallacy, regardless of which side is using it.
Are you suggesting that anything man-made is false? What sort of standards are you talking about anyway? If it takes a higher standard to belive [without evidence] that god snapped his fingers and popped the universe into existence then something is seriously screwed up here.
1: 97%? Aren't you a little old to be telling fibs, Johnny?
And the bible, fairly simply, is a man made document (or collection of documents, legends, myths, and a few snippits of actual history)
"The Bible is also very well accepted."By who? Not a lot of Bible acceptance in Iran or Japan.
"Up to 97% of the people accept the Bible."
97% of what group of people. Not world-wide. Not the U.S. population. OK, maybe 97% of the congregation at Dinkwad Baptist Church.
"More than what accepts the theory of evolution."
Though your 97% stat is certainly incorrect, I am willing to believe that more sadly ignorant Americans say they believe the Bible than believe the ToE.
"The difference is if you accept man's theory of evolution, then you have low standards."
No, demanding evidence to support one's positions is not a low standard.
"If you accept the Bible, you have high standards because God sets a much higher standard for us then we would set for ourselves."
No, accepting the Bible as true demonstrates a very low standard as much of the Bible is patently false and/or ridiculous.
"Evolution is false simply because it is a man made theory."
That's the stupidest thing I've read today. That means that every theory man has every come up with is wrong. Gravity is false? Germs don't exist? Damn, I just formulated a theory that JR7 doesn't exist, but he still seems to be here.
There goes JohnR7 again, making up statistics. 97% of all people "accept the Bible?" Accept it as what? As a book? As a good read on a rainy day? As a hard surface to set your beer on? As the most common object found in a hotel room? Without a qualification as to what people "accept" the Bible as, the statement is meaningless.
97% you say?No religious affiliation 723000000 * 44,4%
Let's be brutally honest, here - when considering statistics based on the whole of humanity, one must always remember that a significant proportion of it isn't terribly bright, and much of it in fact deeply distrusts those who are. This rather makes any argument based on popularity, such as this one, rather useless.
Which standards, killing non-virgin brides?, genocide?, slavery?...........besides, it´s not 97%. Approximately, between 10 to 12% of the world is atheist, plus 20% muslim and a rambling number of buddists. And not all the people who accept the Bible take it literarilly, because they understand that it was written in 500 BC. So, who is the minority now, Johnny?
No, I don't think 97% accept the Bible. Considering that there are nearly as many Muslims as Christians, and people of Hinduism, etc. beyond that, I don't think Christianity has claim to even half the people.
Evolution is false simply because it is a man made theory.
Pick a religion, any religion. I can tell you with confidence that no more than 1/3 of the world's inhabitants belong to that religion. Do you still insist on appealing to popularity?
The difference is if you accept man's Bible, then you have low standards. If you accept evolution, you have high standards because science sets a much higher standard for us then we would set for ourselves. The Bible is false simply because it is a man made theory."
@A Rodent Says.
That 97% figure is out of someone's ass, most likely yours, John.
Having no religious affiliation is not the same as following Athiesm, which is in itself a religion demanding almost as much dogma and denial as a strongly Deist one.
There is the passive, literal meaning of 'athiesm' which means a neutral lack of belief in God, as a rock or bug would be, but (at least in my area) there is also a semi-organized Atheist group, which are more along the lines of 'anti-theist', people who proclaim themselves Athiest as a religion and actively insist that there is no God. That group was quite dogmatic when I've spoken to them, refusing to listen to any suggestion that there might be a God of any kind.
So what if the majority of people believe the Bible? The majority of people also voted Blair or Bush into government.
97% of the population of Head Wound, Alabama, accept the Bible as 100% literal truth. The rest have been killed, captured or have escaped.
A Rodent Says.: Anti-theist, you say? There's an interesting concept. By my thinking, that would qualify as a sort of "fundie atheist" stance; those folks get quoted here, too, on the rare occasion that we find good, funny quotes from such people.
Assuming that you include every single Abrahamic religion as accepting the Bible, which would be against reality, you still only get around half of the Earth's population. Limit it to Christianity, and you get around 30%.
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1: Man-made theory =/= false; gravity, anyone? Relativity? Thermodynamics?in your church may prefer the Creation story over evolution, but that doesn't make them right.
Evolution is false simply because it is a man made theory.
So god is perfect, and everything he makes is perfect, and he made man, and everything man does is fucked up...
You know, I'm not certain, but I'm fairly sure the Theories of Gravity and Light are also man-made. So that automatically means they're false too, right? Cool, I've always wanted to be able to levitate invisibly, and be omnipresent like that sky-daddy you kiss up to.
I thought only about 2,2 billion people (out of about 7 billions) are Christian, and many of them see the Bible as more of a myth-book, than a science book. Very, very few take it literally.
If you accept the tried and tested Theory of Evolution, you have high standards, as you wait for evidence and conirmation. If you accept the contradictory Bible, full of translation errors and inconsistencies, you have low standards, as you believe whatever the priests tell you.
The Bible is a man-made collection of myths and fairy-tales. Guess it's false too...
This is a bit like my mother in law, who would relate some utterly ridiculous "old wives' tale": "They say that___" (finding a penny means you'll come into money, or it's going to be a hard winter if the wooly-bear caterpillars have a broad black stripe, etc. I, not being afraid of my mother in law, would laugh and say no, that's just a silly story, and who are "they" that say it? There is no way for caterpillars to read the future, and she would, with her best little-girl pout, say "but that's what THEY SAY".
"Evolution is false simply because it is a man made theory."
Everything in science is a man-made theory. To be science, it has to be technically falsifiable. It has to be possible that some evidence could be found that will disprove the theory.
Some theories have just so very much evidence piled up in support that a falsification is extremely unlikely, but it's still possible.
If you're going to reject man-made theories, then reject everything in your house that's powered by electricity.
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