I’m afraid you don’t know Jesus at all to try to declair His character. He was not a doe eyed hippie like portrayed by most folk. He was much different than most people like to presume. Much to the the contrary. Incidently if you were to meet him in the flesh, you would be most likely to decide that He was not a Christian at all by your standards! Again, I dare you to read for yourself His own words!! Too simple for you??? (old KJV version of course)
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I like the stuff about only Jews getting to go to heaven!And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew's great. Not only was it the oldest of the Gospels, it was also the source of most of Mark and Luke. It's only when John was written 100 years later on a different continent that all the anti-semitism came forth. Hell Jesus was a jew. He came to uphold Mosaic Law according to Matthew. he was a charlatan and con man a horse rustler and a bonehead who could only recite 6 of the 10 commandments but hey, no one's perfect! Yep! Not even him!
So, he was not a hippy, he was not a Christian, and the only authorised version is a translation to old English?, but the best is the assumption that he CAN MEET HIM IN FLESH. Have you, my dear?. It´s fisically impossible. So, now if you want my opinion, we have reached that conclusion because we had made what you suggested and yes, he was a liberal. What happened is that YOU conservatives haven´t.
I’m afraid you don’t know Jesus at all to try to declair His character.Well neither do you, for that matter.
He was not a doe eyed hippie like portrayed by most folk.
And here you go trying to declare his character.
He was much different than most people like to presume.
It is likely that he didn't exist at all.
Much to the the contrary. Incidently if you were to meet him in the flesh, you would be most likely to decide that He was not a Christian at all by your standards!
To be honest, I don't know what "christian" is anymore. Every single one of your cultist whackjobs has got a different spin on it. And then there's you.
Again, I dare you to read for yourself His own words!! Too simple for you???
No. To be perfectly honest, I just can't be bothered.
Yes, indeedy, if modern-day Christians could meet Yeshua ben Youse, they wouldn't think him a Christian at all. They'd think him an uppity wog.
Unless Jesus wrote an unofficial autobiography talking about how he used to bang the shit outta Mary Magdalene while chugging beers and cleaning his shotgun, I think you might be mistaken.
Julian -
I couldn't say whether Jesus was "doe eyed" or not. Nobody thought to snap a Polaroid of him. But if the words attributed to him were ever spoken by anyone, that person had a philosophy much closer to that of a "hippie" than to that of many modern Christians.
Because Jesus couldn't speak until Elizabethan and Jacobean Englishmen gave him words.
"I’m afraid you don’t know Jesus at all to try to declair His character."It seems that you barely know english to write a sentence such as that.
"He was not a doe eyed hippie like portrayed by most folk."
Well, first, you should show that the Jesus of the Bible even existed, then we can discuss the state of his eyes.
"He was much different than most people like to presume."
And, you are an accomplished authority on the eyes of long-dead "hippies?"
"Much to the the contrary. Incidently if you were to meet him in the flesh, you would be most likely to decide that He was not a Christian at all by your standards!"
Uh huh, and you know this because...?
"Again, I dare you to read for yourself His own words!!"
I presume you mean the gospels? Read 'em. Read 'em many times. They contain many contradictions and absurdities. I was not very impressed.
"Too simple for you???"
Yes, you are too simple for me.
"(old KJV version of course)"
From a scholarly approach, there is very little to recommend the KJV. It was translated from the few, late manuscripts available at that time. Since then, many older, more reliable manuscripts have become available.
Which Jesus are you talking about? The one from Mark who talked mostly about the Kingdom of Heaven, or the one from John who talked mostly about himself? Are you talking about the one from Matthew who said that the law would stand forever, or the one from Luke who said it really didn't matter? Perhaps you are talking about the Jesus of Paul's imagination who apparently did nothing worth noting except die. Then again, maybe you mean the Jesus from one of the apocryphal gospels which didn't make it in to the New Testament.
And please don't try and tell me that they are all the same man (except maybe the one from the apocryphal gospels). The accounts are too contradictory for that. They can't even agree on his origins or his final words. When there are contradictory accounts, only one can be factual.
Too simple for you???
I bet I've read more from the Bible than you have, dearie. I've read parts of the Bible in Swedish, in English (several different versions) and in Latin.
No Bible was written at the time of Jesus, none contain His Own Words. They are all hear-say of several hundred years, in the case of KJV about 1600 years.
According to the stories in the Bible, he was definitely not a Christian by today's fundie standard.
"I’m afraid you don’t know Jesus at all to try to declair
Of course not:
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Eclair is a very attractive C (now G)-class operative of GOTT. And - like Jesus - resurrected herself, after being reduced to her component subatomic particles by the Deucalion's matter-energy conversion chamber.
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"Declair"?
What's that? When you take sombody's eclair away from them?"
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And why the KJV?
Even so, from the poor translation that the KJV is, "read for yourself His own words" still contains an abundance of peaceful lovey-dovey hippy. You, having never read it, are confusing the actual scripture with the right wing dogma your fundamentalist churches have been adding.
Y'know, somewhere between Rambo Christ and Jesus Trump where your special sick concept of a saviour is.
Confused?
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