God can heal anything, but what God does for us depends on our capacity to believe that he can do it for us.
This is a true story:(not that you'll believe me ,but whatever...
A pastor once told a story about a man in a wheelchair that he asked, "Do you want to walk?" The man said, " Yes!" The pastor said, " Then get up!" The man struggled to get up. This happened two more times, so the pastor ripped the blanket off of the man to see that he had no legs. Immediately, he stopped telling the man to get up. Why, because the only person in that room who believed that he man could get up with no legs was the man himself. Their doubt may well have cost that man new legs. They beleived that a crippled man with legs could get up, but they didn't believe that God could heal a man without legs.
My point of view is what you call a cop-out: I don't care if you never see a miracle or proof thereof, the judgement is certain. (This should get some blood boiling)
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What's he saying? That if the congregation had not seen that the man had no legs then they would have continued to have "faith" that he would be healed and - viola! - he would have sprouted a workable set of limbs immediately? In that case, he oughta sue the pastor for medical malpractice for ripping off the blanket and thereby thwarting the cure. Or some such nonsense.
So, even if the supposed healing doesn't work, it still happened?
The people were doubting that God could heal a man with no legs even though they thought that the man in question had legs?
Stop coming up with excuses why your faith healing didn't work.
God told me that if you have enough faith, you'll be able to fly from a great, big, tall building. Try it.
God can heal anything, but what God does for us depends on our capacity to believe that he can do it for us.
...the only person in that room who believed that he man could get up with no legs was the man himself.
Yet god didn't heal him after all. Hmmm Why do you suppose that is? Maybe god got all embarrassed by seeing the doubt from the rest of the people and his powers sort of vanished. It used to happen to Uri Geller all the time.
I don´t say it didn´t happen, but, honestly, and if I say that I met Moses who resurrected?, who is going to check in internet after all?
Psssst: I heard that if you have enough faith, God will let you walk on water.
Oh, wait, that was last month. Sorry.
My point of view is what you call a cop-out:
You got that right.
What judgement is that? That your god is such a dick he won't heal somebody who has faith in him, because somebody else doubts he will? Or maybe it just proves that there is no such thing as god, and that this pastor was such a dick that he didn't have any qualms about fucking with someone's emotions. Not that this comes as any kind of a surprise.
Please show proof that God ever, at any time, anywhere regenerated actual, living flesh & blood, working legs for an amputee. Until then, shut up and go away.
"This is a true story: (not that you'll believe me ,but whatever..."
Generally speaking: No. NOT whatever! Either put up or shut up. If you cannot prove that it happened, or at least tell us in which congregation in which year so we can do the research and fact-checking ourselves, then for all means and purposes it didn't happen and is a lie (ever heard of that concept?). How is this so hard to grasp?
Having said that, on this occasion I'm even inclined to believe that it's a true story, because, you know, nothing out of the ordinary happened. They prayed for him to be able to walk, and he couldn't. Wow, now there's a proof that god exists, if I've ever seen one... *rolleyes*
Theres that trickster god again, making a guy think he can walk and then, NOPE! Ha-ha!
"This is a true story:(not that you'll believe me ,but whatever..."
There's lack of faith well shown. You didn't even have faith that we would think this was true. I for one DO think this is a true story because NOTHING HAPPENED!
Just think, any religion on earth would immediately be proclaimed the 'one true faith' if any of the supposed gods or even one of its prophets could cure one amputee and show proof of it. Guess god wants a lot of people in hell then, huh?
God can heal anything, but what God does for us depends on our capacity to believe that he can do it for us.
Nothing quite says omnipotence and majesty like blame shifting!
So, Noah's Ark... There was a lot of people that saw him building that right. Didn't they all think he was a complete nut-job building that in the middle of the desert, yet apparently there was sufficient faith for it to rain?
Didn't the Egyptians have no faith in the magic of Moses, yet the plagues still happened?
Didn't Job have faith that God was looking out for him, yet he still got shafted?
Good job those citizens of Sodom and Gomorrah didn't believe God was going to do anything, they might've got their asses singed.
... And the point of this is what? The pastor was an asspipe? You're an asspipe? God's an asspipe? The audience were asspipes? Who?
<<God can heal anything, but what God does for us depends on our capacity to believe that he can do it for us.>>
Of course , seeing as miracles are just a figment of your imagination...
I don't get it. god is all-powerful, yet his powers depend on people in a room believing he has power, despite he managed to do lots of stuff in the past without needing faith(Julian's list covers that)? Or god refused to heal that man even if he could, just because a few guys there didn't have faith? I always thought god was supposed to be good, and healing that man would be an appropiate way of rewarding his faith, while teaching the others to believe in him and then go to heaven. Why didn't god do it if he is all-powerful and good?
So...the same God that created the heavens and the Earth, all the planets, the stars, caused plagues on Egypt, destroyed cities and supposedly created man...couldn't grow this dude a pair of legs, which, for God, should have been a no-brainer?
A pastor told a story, and you take it for granted that it's true?
Not even "MY pastor", just "A pastor"...
The man didn't get up even before they didn't know he had no legs, dolt!
They didn't cost him new legs, God did.
Or God does not perform miracles, or he doesn't exist.
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A pastor once told a story about a man in a wheelchair that he asked, "Do you want to walk?" The man said, " Yes!" The pastor said, " Then get up!" The man struggled to get up. This happened two more times, so the pastor ripped the blanket off of the man to see that he had no legs
...and thus said pastor was doctrinally cornered by an Atheist, perhaps: in the wheelchair (for good reason, methinks) or by his companion. Then you - and he - wonder why 'Why Won't God Heal Amputees? ' exists...?!
It's why the Paralympics does, OP. Certainly from 9th - 18th March in Pyeongchang.
@Ens
I can turn invisible, but only when nobody is looking
...or whilst wearing a Plutonium battery-powered digital watch. [/"Gemini Man"]
...fuck me, but I'm showing my age there! X3
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