Do animals have souls?
Animals clearly do not have souls. This question is sparked over thoughts of what will happen to pets like dogs and cats when their lives end or when we're raptured. Over the years there have been trillions of animals on the earth, and heaven would be a very crowded place if each one of had a soul.
The fact that animals don't have a soul is, in a way, an advantage to them. I've lost several pets over the years, and I firmly believe that in Heaven I can ask God to bring each one back to life. With humans this outcome is not possible. I've had several relatives die in what I feared was a lost state. If I should make Heaven my home, I know I'll never see them again.
If I were a dog, I'd want a Christian as my master.
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if your 'living' in a spiritual plane how exactly do you summon something that doesn't possess a spirit?
Also, you're retarded. I've seen 'All Dogs Go to Heaven' and consider it at least as valid as the bible.
"Over the years there have been trillions of animals on the earth, and heaven would be a very crowded place if each one of had a soul."
Yeah, because God can only have made heaven big enough for all the billions of human souls that have ever walked the Earth.
The idea of a heaven larger than that would be ridiculous!
Let me see if I've got this straight - you'll go straight to heaven without dying during rapture, somehow keeping your material body in an immaterial place, hence all these abandoned clothes we keep being told about, although people who die pre-rapture will still presumably get to heaven despite losing their bodies, so they aren't actually necessary. Furthermore, heaven apparently has a maximum capacity despite being immaterial, and although god can create it he evidently cannot enlarge it.
Your pets have no soul and cannot go to heaven either by dying or being raptured, but instead simply cease to exist. They can be recreated in heaven, however, and you'd evidently have no problem with the fact that they would be copies and not the original pets, which remain dead.
Furthermore, although god can recreate a soulless pet from nothing, he cannot recreate a human, implying that he cannot create a soul, and thus could not have originally created human beings, as set out in your creation myth.
DOES. NOT. FUCKING. COMPUTE.
"Over the years there have been trillions of animals on the earth, and heaven would be a very crowded place if each one of had a soul."
Over the years, this is the excuse that idiot superstitious parents have fed to their kids to dodge the question of baptism for gerbils, lower life forms commiting "sin", etc. So just how big is heaven, what makes you think non-corporial entities take up space, and if it's crowded or not, how do you know? STOP MAKING SHIT UP TO SUPPORT YOUR MADE-UP DOGMA! You make my head hurt!
Animals clearly do not have souls. ...
No one clearly does have a soul, for if such a thing exists, there is no more evidence that some faith-head possesses it than there is that a dog has one.
Over the years there have been trillions of animals on the earth, and heaven would be a very crowded place if each one of had a soul.
Why? Can't God make heaven big enough to hold everybody?
1 heaven is by its ostensible nature infinite and timeless.
2 according to your creed, you have no choice where you end up, it's all up to the "big man"
"If I were a dog, I'd want a Christian as my master"
- sounds like your typical baptist church on a sunday.
Heaven is a city exactly 13 miles long by 13 miles wide by 13 miles high, It has streets paved in gold and gates made of pearl. all doors are exactly 40 feet wide by 40 feet tall, and it is to be home for the exactly 144,000 people who will be allowed to enter in and spend all of eternity kneeling and praising Jehova and his son Jesus.
Its actualy a rather hellish place.
1. There is no evidence for a soul in a human either.
2. Why would heaven ever be crowed? Can't god give it whatever boundaries he wants it to have. (ps. there is no evidence for a heaven either).
3. You are a dog. And a Christian is your master.
"If I were a dog, I'd want a Christian as my master."
If you were a dog, all you would care about would be licking your' own bottom. You would have no soul, but that's no problem because you don't have one now day-dream believer.
I love how you say "it's clear", & then don't elaborate. Priceless.
Other than that, I pretty much agree with everyone else here.
You mean this little fella won't get in ?
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Look how cute he is! I reckon he could talk Peter round, then crap in your bed.
Weird "logic" but it's not really that fundie. Odds are the poster is a fundie, given the forum they're posting on, but this post, in and of itself, isn't.
Heaven is a city exactly 13 miles long by 13 miles wide by 13 miles high, It has streets paved in gold and gates made of pearl. all doors are exactly 40 feet wide by 40 feet tall, and it is to be home for the exactly 144,000 people who will be allowed to enter in and spend all of eternity kneeling and praising Jehova and his son Jesus.
Its actualy a rather hellish place.
@D Laurier: Behold Paradise:
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Fail.
Even the bible disagrees with you:
Ecclesiastes 3:18
"As for men, God tests them so that they may see that they are like the animals. 19 Man's fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath ; man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless. 20 All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return. 21 Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?"
If I were a dog, I'd want a Christian as my master.
Me too, I'd have to reincarnate as the Queen of Sheba to make up for that dud hand!
I've lost several pets over the years, and I firmly believe that in Heaven I can ask God to bring each one back to life.
Frankenfido!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenfido
Humans have no soul . Humans are the fools, the monsters. If there is a god, well, Goddess, she's a shapeshifter, not human. That is, of course, if She is real. There's always a chance She's not, though I'd like to believe She's real.
Anyway, humans are the souless monsters. Humans are the raveging demons, the beasts that feed off suffering. They are death, destruction, and to deny this is to be blind.
Funny, then, how all the dogs I've ever owned have always been happy dogs. I'd really love to have them all come back to life, too, but as none of them was named Jesus I'm not holding my breath.
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