Andy Schlafly #fundie

Andy Schlafly #fundie conservapedia.com

First, admit that liberals do deify government officials, which is undeniable. Second, liberal insistence on using the incorrect term "President's Day," which is contrary to law, defies any other explanation.

[I have friends and relatives from many parts of the political spectrum, and I can't think of any of them, liberal or conservative, who would give any president god-like status, or who worship government officials.]

You deny far too much, Hsmom. Join the "Economist" in losing credibility by refusing to admit that liberals deify government officials.

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Lots of vague denials here, yet no one will admit how liberals deify government officials, as communists did for Stalin and Lenin in the Soviet Union and elsewhere. To liberals, the "President" is an object of worship (or extreme scorn in a few cases). A liberal views the President as somehow above everyone else, and "President's Day" is in honor and recognition of that deification, despite the law expressly stating otherwise. Pathetic, I know, but atheists don't have the real God and this helps fill their vacuum.

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ShawnJ, you lose all credibility when you say that you "disagree that liberals deify government officials." What you do think the deification of Lenin, Stalin and Castro is about? Or do you deny that deification also?

I repeat: atheists don't have God, and something inevitably fills that vacuum. The presidency plays that role for many liberals. Honor and worship!

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old comment by Pule Thamex

You're one sorry-arse mental case aren't you. From my happy position of being able to view the goings-on of American politics from the outside, the only politicians who seemed to have been afforded godlike status recently have been Mr. Bush and Mrs. Palin.

Fundamentalists who practically coming in their pants when Mrs. Palin came on the scene (pun intended). And, Mr. Bush, we all know how idiotic he was, was practically worshiped as a god during his time as president. In fact, in the twisted reality of fundamentalists, the Republican Party seems to be viewed as an extension of the fundamentalist cults.

Andy Schlafly, whose posts I seen before, is a complete and utter simpleton.

old comment by GigaGuess

First, admit that liberals do deify government officials, which is undeniable.
Okay, I can go digging through the archives and find dozens of posts of fundies throwing themselves at Dubya's feet as though he was Jesus himself. Same goes by Palin. So you have the gall to accuse *US* for deifying government officials?

A liberal views the President as somehow above everyone else...
Like how the Fundies were APPLAUDING Bush when he announced the Patriot Act? He's president, so if he's gonna strip us of our rights, and it's called the PATRIOT Act, it must be right, right?

...and "President's Day" is in honor and recognition of that deification, despite the law expressly stating otherwise.
By your own statement here, you are fully admitting the correlation is purely in your head, you realize that, right?

Pathetic, I know, but atheists don't have the real God and this helps fill their vacuum.
No, he's viewed as a leader. Someone to be respected, yes. But deified? Don't make me laugh.

@Pule Thamex
In fact, in the twisted reality of fundamentalists, the Republican Party seems to be viewed as an extension of ~~the fundamentalist cults.~~ God himself.

Fixed it for ya.

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I have noticed a tendency in assorted fundies I encountered on this site and elsewhere: They tend to project their own actions and mindsets to other people. In my not-so-humble opinion as a student of human thought,this arises from the fact that they are incapable of comprehending thought processes, mindsets and identities different from their own.

I know, you will say "this is what makes them a fundie." and you would be absolutely right.

However, see things from their perspective for a moment. They can not respect, and at the same time be capable of objectively viewing, their leaders. They must deify them. It is in the nature of their thoughts. They were taught slavish obedience from the get go, and are incapable of getting out of that conditioning. Thus, they project. For example: I respect Chavez. His bravery, at least. However, there are actions of his I despise: Like the life-long presidenthood of his or his support of Mugabe. To a fundie, none of this means anything. If I'm not hating him, I must be worshipping him. No middle ground is possible.

I pity them, actually. A sorry life they lead, all black and white.

old comment by arcturus

The hype has died down. Obama is now doing his job under normal conditions, where I think he will be a great president, and while he does that, I will criticise his every REAL mistake, while you guys just writing him off. He responds to criticism (ok, so he's been described by one journalist as a bit aloof, so maybe he doesn't, but if I was running for president, I'd have more things on my mind than the concerns of a foreign journalist). Meanwhile, you guys have a rather different set of criticisms - you think he's the antichrist, and there's a perfectly good answer to that criticism - he's not.

Real criticism: why invoke protectionism over failing car companies to temporarily prop jobs up making cars that nobody is going to buy anyway? Protectionism always fails. The money you use to do that comes out of people's pockets and therefore affects ALL other industries and creates an artificial imbalance in the market. Read Alan Greenspan.

If a company cannot survive, then its employees need to be doing something more useful. Create a new market. Finding one in this phase is tricky, but that's what greenspan did during the steel collapse, and the aluminium industry was staring him in the face.

old comment by Giveitaday

First, admit that liberals do deify government officials, which is undeniable. Second, liberal insistence on using the incorrect term "President's Day," which is contrary to law, defies any other explanation.

What in the name of fuck are you going on about? President's Day is the name used in some states to combine the celebration of both Lincoln's and Washington's birthday. It is not a "liberal" holiday, nor is calling it "President's Day" in any way contrary to any law.

We live in a free nation, no matter how much you would like to deny that, and for it to be contrary to law there would have to be a law that specifically said "This holiday may not, in any way, be refered to as "President's Day" by any citizen, permanent resident, business entity, or public trust." There is not such a law.

You deny far too much, Hsmom. Join the "Economist" in losing credibility by refusing to admit that liberals deify government officials

So if you make an assertion towards someone and they point out that it's not true, then therefore it must be true? I self identify as a liberal and yet I've managed to critisize every president liberal or conservative, so by your reasoning then I must actually secretly worship the liberal ones in some kind of secret alter I keep hidden.

Is your ego so fragile that you can't even entertain the possibility that you might be wrong?

Lots of vague denials here, yet no one will admit how liberals deify government officials, as communists did for Stalin and Lenin in the Soviet Union and elsewhere

Mabye no one will admit to it because it's not true. Andy, you poor deluded fool, your reasoning has yet to pass beyond the witch trial phase, where you throw an accused witch in the lake and execute them for witch craft if they don't drown.

To liberals, the "President" is an object of worship (or extreme scorn in a few cases). A liberal views the President as somehow above everyone else, and "President's Day" is in honor and recognition of that deification

It's funny how you just ignore the fact that a very large percentage of liberals, democratic or otherwise, are christians. It seems that you start from the assumption that liberal=atheist, and that's just not so, no matter how much you whine and cry about it. You are like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

despite the law expressly stating otherwise

And what law would that be, Andy? Specifically, what law? Seeing as how any law like that would be a violation of the establishment clause, I have to assume that you are simply resorting to type an lying, seems it runs in your family.

Pathetic, I know, but atheists don't have the real God and this helps fill their vacuum.

What vaccum? You assume too much, do you even know any real, live atheists?

ShawnJ, you lose all credibility when you say that you "disagree that liberals deify government officials."

Andy, andy, andy.... You never had an credibility to begin with, and I highly doubt that anyone cares whether or not you find them credible. All we are trying to do is drag you out of this fantasy world you live in and introduce you to reality. It's for your own good really.

What you do think the deification of Lenin, Stalin and Castro is about? Or do you deny that deification also?

I don't deny there was a cult of personality in those cases, much like the one you are busily trying to build for yourself there at Schaflyopedia, But those cults of personality were built from the top down and actively encouraged by the state, not sponteneous and bottom up like you claim is the case in the US. There is no comparison there, and you are still full of shit.

I repeat: atheists don't have God,

That's the first true statement you have made in this little self serving diatribe, and it will likely be the last.

and something inevitably fills that vacuum

Again, what vaccum? Humans are not born hardwired to worship any "god", much less your "god".

The presidency plays that role for many liberals. Honor and worship!

You say it over and over and over again as if repetition will somehow make it true. I don't even want to hear you go on about honor and worship of a president. Just a few short moths ago you, yourself were advocating charges of treason for those who disagreed with your precious ~~Cheney's Jailhouse Bitch~~ Bush and calling for people to be charged with slander when they pointed out lie after lie, and innumerable inconsistancies in damn near every statement that Palin made.

This little rant of your is nothing more than self serving projection.