Indeed, being a husband is like being a master. Ever heard of animal husbandry?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/husbandry
Go check out definition 2.
It’s not an equal relationship. That man is responsible for your safety and provisioning, your spiritual growth, maturity in faith, physical health (as far as it can be maintained), and emotional stability. He is responsible for cultivating you in much the same way a farmer is responsible for cultivating a crop. He must provide a safe environment, tend you, feed you, correct mistakes, and keep evil things that would consume you away. It’s not an equal relationship at all. Your job is to have children, do what he tells you, and support him with any gifts or talents you have. That is unless you can find something in scripture that I missed?
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My safety from what? Provisioning what? If anything, I know more about religion than he does, he doesn't care one way or the other. I usually tend and feed myself, I bring home most of the food for us both, and I'm much more in the position of correcting his mistakes than he mine.
Oh, I guess I failed my job dismally, then. I haven't been able to produce any kids, and I certainly wouldn't do what he tells me to any more than he would do what I tell him to do.
I have found something in scripture that you obviously missed; It. Doesn't. Make Sense.
Seriously, man,
PISS OFF!
Just go away with your self-loathing bullshit.
(ETA: Actually, no, on second thought, I'm with anevilmeme. This is probably a dude. He should still go away with his bullshit all the same, though.)
Indeed, being a husband is like being a master. Ever heard of animal husbandry?
Well, some of us prefer to not think of women as livestock.
"That is unless you can find something in scripture that I missed?"
Well there's this:
"Verily canst thou fuck off" The Women of Epesus' letter to Saint Paul Ch.1, v.1
In modern society, that's not how it works. If a couple wants to do it that way, fine, but no one is forced into that dynamic.
>> . Ever heard of animal husbandry? <<
Sure, have you? Perfect example of evolution, figured out by the first guy who found, by scientific experiment, that parking his fucking goats in front of spotted sticks did zip.
If you're a typical fundie, I'd say it's close to 99% of it.
Why do poor and/or minority people ever vote republican?
I think she has a husband confused with a father. Does she really think that without a man a woman cannot provide for herself or resist "evil things"? She must have a very low opinion of herself.
EDIT: Ah, I see that this post is not actually from SM herself, but these are her same beliefs so my point stands.
@ SpukiKitty:
I knew you'd get that one. Actually, I had a mouse named Gerald for a bit as a child, I was unaware of Floyd. I wasn't insulting Mr. Barrett's mouse, I was saying he'd be useful, mainly by gnawing this guy's *Jabs a painted thumb into Joseph of Jackson's general direction* eyes out.
Yeah, I've heard of animal husbandry. I've also heard that bestiality has nothing to do with veterinary medicine, and veterinary medicine has nothing to do with the Veteran's Administration. Go fucking figure, you dolt!
You know, I don't even hate Sunshine Mary, I just feel really sorry for her. I mean, I assume that her attitude toward her own gender is a direct result of how she was raised. And I mean, could you imagine that? Being told throughout your entire childhood that you're worthless and inferior because you were born a girl, that your only purpose in life is to serve a man. Being brainwashed with that shit until you end up believing and embracing the idea that you were basically born to be a slave.
I kind of want to give her a hug, honestly. Poor thing. And if she's reading this I want to tell her that what she beleives is just not true; women are not inferior to men, and she doesn't have to be the slave of some asshole just because she was born with a vagina.
I always thought that being a husband to a woman you liked and animal husbandry where two different things ?
Not sure I follow the cultivating a crop bit either. I spread watered down cow manure on some things ? my wife would object to that I suspect.
I don't know about old Joseph here, but the part of scripture that I seem to have missed is the part which tells me why I should give a flying fuck what it says in scripture. This is the 21st century, not the fucking Dark Ages.
If it's biblical scriptures he's on about then he's most likely an ardent fantasist wannabe tent commander. The ideal that is Jesusland is, in reality, a twisted vision of horror and despair in which atrocities may be visited on other people with some biblical justification for ones own mental illnesses and weaknesses.
Also, how is it possible that any female can be seen to be more intelligent than a male god-botherer? Quite easily, judging by Joseph's rushing to hide behind the skirts of scripture.
That is unless you can find something in scripture that I missed?
Judges. Deborah was raised up as a judge over the kingdom of Israel, and I find it hard to believe she was spending all of her time in the kitchen or popping out babies while she was leading an Israeli army. It seems unlikely YHWH would have allowed her to prevail over the Assyrian army if he disapproved.
@ SpukiKitty
Now we're talkin'! Throw in some marching hammers, grab a thing of popcorn, add in Ride of the Valkyries, and have some fun. Muahahahaha!
The really sad part is that poor, pitiable, brainwashed women like Mary are some of the best tools misogynists have to justify their misogyny and, in the process, brainwash more girls into thinking that they're sub-human slaves because of their gender. They can point at brainwashed, self-loathing women like Mary and say "See? Even women agree with us!"
God that site is literally the most depressing thing.
Husband originally just meant "house-dweller", i.e. a freeholder, peasant or sharecropper, only later referring to the "head of the house" or family patriarch. Husbandry derives from this earlier use, and relates to management or farming of land and its resources (like livestock), hence you have the word "husbandman" as a synonym for farmer, as in 1635 book The English Husbandman which described itself as "contayning the art of planting, grafting,and gardening, etc., the ordering of the kitchin-garden, breeding of cattell, whereunto is added a treatise contayning a discourse of the generall art of fishing, with the choyce breeding of the fighting cocke."
So neither husband nor husbandry mean what you say they mean, nor are their modern meanings related. You fail.
I may not be married, I am only engaged, but really?
"Your job is to have children, do what he tells you, and support him with any gifts or talents you have."
I literally don't do any of those. Not one.
Well, maybe kind of one. I do feed him delicious foodstuffs because I'm a good cook. Not because I have to, but because I enjoy seeing him happy.
You people are so messed up.
The sad part is that according to his posts on Sunshine Mary's blog, Joseph is going to different churches teaching men "Christian game" so that they know the proper way to treat their women.
He also once posted that he deliberately found a girlfriend who he believes to have a lower market value than he does so that she'd look up to and submit to him.
A agree that it's sad that Sunshine Mary agrees with Joseph's view of women and sees this as her role in her marriage to her cheating hubby.
Well, there is something in Scriptures that you were missing. If your husband is responsible to you in everything, you can't be accountable of the morality the Scriptures want you to follow. If you are not responsible for basic needs and need another person to do so, you can't be morally responsible for choices you played no part in.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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