Jack B #fundie

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Our Moon is 400 times smaller than the Sun, but 400 times closer. Thus the Sun and Moon appear the same size, allowing solar eclipses.

The chances of this happening by mere chance - as the Darwinianists claim - is 578.3 trillion to one. Would you bet on such odds? I mean, if you were a betting person, which I'm not, obviously.

Furthermore, if the Moon was formed - as the Darwinianists claim - by a chunk being knocked off the Earth in some kind of cosmic collision, you would expect it to have a full complement of stuff knocked off the Earth (e.g. oceans, an atmosphere, living creatures, volcanoes, burritos etc) whereas in fact a search with even a large telescope reveals nothing but grey rock and dust.

Is it not then obvious that the Moon was created in its present form 6,000 years ago, to be the Moon and nothing else?

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old comment by Jamaican Castle

The chances of this happening by mere chance - as the Darwinianists claim - is 578.3 trillion to one. Would you bet on such odds? I mean, if you were a betting person, which I'm not, obviously.

Let's do a little experiment. Take an ordinary deck of cards, shuffle it a few times, and deal yourself a hand of seven cards. (Let's say you're playing Gin or something.) Take a careful look at those cards. The odds of you drawing this specific hand of cards* are one in 30 trillion. But you wouldn't say that, just because of that unlikely combination, you didn't draw that hand, because clearly you did.

It's much the same with the circumstances of the Solar System. It's no use pondering the slim odds of life or the Moon or the asteroids forming because clearly they did.

you would expect it to have a full complement of stuff knocked off the Earth

Even if this hadn't happened billions of years before these things formed (which it did), imagine the sheer violence of a collision that knocked off about 1.2% of the entire planet. Anything at the point of impact would have been vaporized, and what was left would be molten rock slowly cooling in orbit. Nothing organic could have survived, nor would you expect it to.

@Hasher: The Sun has a million times more mass than the Earth, but is only about 100 times as large in terms of radius.

*Technically, these are the odds of you drawing these cards in this order, which is slightly different than getting that hand of cards (which doesn't care about order). But there's less math involved this way, and it proves the point just as well.

old comment by Grogs

The chances of this happening by mere chance - as the Darwinianists claim - is 578.3 trillion to one. Would you bet on such odds? I mean, if you were a betting person, which I'm not, obviously.

Where does this guy get this ridiculous number? The Moon is about 385,000 km from Earth, but it's orbit varies by about 40,000 km (> 10%) from apogee to perigee. The maximum distance it could orbit the Earth is ~1.5 million km - beyond that it would get pulled off and become a new planet around the Sun. Ignoring the Roche limit, that means if you randomly placed the Moon with an orbital variation of 40,000 from 0 to 1.5 million, there would be a 2.7% chance it would fall within the current range. That's a far cry from the 1 in 578.3 trillion figure he pulled out of his ass.

old comment by Pmorg

'is 578.3 trillion to one'
Where'd you get that figure? Your ass?

'Furthermore, if the Moon was formed - as the Darwinianists claim - by a chunk being knocked off the Earth in some kind of cosmic collision, you would expect it to have a full complement of stuff knocked off the Earth (e.g. oceans, an atmosphere, living creatures, volcanoes, burritos etc) whereas in fact a search with even a large telescope reveals nothing but grey rock and dust.'

Problem with smaller bodies- lower gravity, and they cool down (internally) faster. No magnetic field, atmosphere is stripped away.

'Is it not then obvious that the Moon was created in its present form 6,000 years ago, to be the Moon and nothing else?'
Nope.

old comment by EG

> Our Moon is 400 times smaller than the Sun, but 400 times closer. Thus the Sun and Moon appear the same size, allowing solar eclipses.

Yes, and since the moon's orbit is expanding, there will come a time when total eclipses become impossible. Your point?

> The chances of this happening by mere chance - as the Darwinianists claim - is 578.3 trillion to one.

Citation needed.

> Furthermore, if the Moon was formed - as the Darwinianists claim - by a chunk being knocked off the Earth in some kind of cosmic collision, you would expect it to have a full complement of stuff knocked off the Earth (e.g. oceans, an atmosphere, living creatures, volcanoes, burritos etc) whereas in fact a search with even a large telescope reveals nothing but grey rock and dust.

The moon is not massive enough to retain a substantial atmosphere. Any water on the slurface of the moon would evaporate by the heat of the sun during the middle of a lunar day. Any water that is present should be in the form of ice and in permanent shade (and guess what? It is). The moon is so small that it has had time to cool, the mantle is solid and so the moon is geologically inactive.
Life probably did not exist when the moon was formed. It certainly couldn't have survived it.

> Is it not then obvious that the Moon was created in its present form 6,000 years ago, to be the Moon and nothing else?

The moon could have been created in its present form (craters and all) last tuesday. Or next week for that matter. But since it actually looks old i makes more sense to assume that it is until there is a compelling reason to think otherwise.

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