What is it with young earth scientists that gets everyone riled up so? What are people afraid of? It's just science like I thought people liked and put their faith in. If it is wrong then it will be corrected like people say all science corrects itself. The people that did the reasearch are real scientists, with real degrees. Why make it a person attack? The evidence speaks for itself.
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Uh yeah, It IS wrong, and HAS been corrected, yet people still back it because they haven't a clue as to what the REAL science says.
"The bible says x, so x must be true despite any contrary evidence," is NOT "real science."
At least he got one part right...the evidence DOES speak for itself.
The evidence speaks for itself.
It does. It says, "Your conclusions are bullshit."
"What is it with young earth scientists that gets everyone riled up so?"
Well for starters "young earth scientist" is a contradiction. GIGO.
"What are people afraid of?"
Ignorant fundies screwing up our science education.
"It's just science..."
No it's fundie bullshit.
"...like I thought people liked and put their faith in."
See you don't understand science, it's not faith nor is it dogma. Science is based on evidence and only evidence.
"If it is wrong then it will be corrected like people say all science corrects itself."
It does, science is in the long run self correcting. However the bullshit you are peddling is religious dogma, which is never self correcting.
"The evidence speaks for itself."
Yes it does, reality talks and your bullshit walks.
The people didn't do the research, are not real scientists, do not have real degrees. Besides that the evidence is sometimes extremely convoluted and counterintuitive, which is exactly why it took 10,000 years to develop the theory of evolution.
The thing that really gets me riled up about Creationists defending Creationism is the 'mountains of evidence' all of them claim to have. If you talk to evolutionists, you'll probably actually get to hear some of the evidence supporting our side, (transitional fossils, mutation theories, observed cases of evolution, &c.) but ask for even a slice of the 'Creationist evidence' and the debate will probably turn into a shouting match if it continues at all.
It HAS been disproven! The real scientists are in agreement that evolution is backed up by evidence, and young earth creationism is groundless pseudo-science. As for degrees, the REAL real scientists actually studied for theirs, unlike the fundies with their drive-thru PHDs
What gets me "riled up" is the YECist "scientists" use the title of scientists without using the scientific method.
Try to keep up with the class, TYT, the "evidence" and conclusions purveyed by the YECist "scientists" have been corrected by the real scientist over and over and over.
And, you're right, the YECist's evidence DOES speak for itself.
"Why make it a person attack? The evidence speaks for itself."
Yes. Which is why we'd like them to shut up and accept it.
oh wait, you meant their circular logic they claim is evidence because it says it is?
no, see, that's kinda where the problem stems from...
What is it with young earth scientists that gets everyone riled up so?
I'll explain. YECs try to force their beliefs into the public school science curriculum and interfere with the teaching of science. They don't do this with legitimate peer-reviewed scientific debate; they do it by political maneuvering and presenting misleading arguments to uneducated people who can't make an informed decision about the merits of their baloney. Their motive is to proselytize their fundamentalist Christian religious beliefs to everyone else's children. Their entire "theory" has absolutely no support outside of the Bible. There is basically nothing that will ever convince them they are wrong. They will invent the most outrageous and far-fetched nonsense out of thin air in order to "explain" any objection to their Bible-based beliefs. If you tell them a star was measured at 169,000 light years away, they'll say the speed of light changed, or space is warped in some sort of Star Trek manner. If you point out that Matthew, Mark and Luke listed Bartholomew as a disciple but John left him out and substituted Nathaniel, they'll say Nathaniel must have been Bartholomew's alternate name. There's no far-fetched nonsense they can't invent out of the air to explain anything that disagrees with them. And yet, they want schools to teach this crap to our kids, even if our kids aren't Christians. Then they disingenuously lie about their motives and claim they have no religious agenda. See the Dover School District trial on intelligent design, and how they got caught lying in their court submissions on this issue.
Sorry ... do I sound pissed off on this issue? :-)
"What is it with young earth scientists that gets everyone riled up so? ... If it is wrong then it will be corrected like people say all science corrects itself."
Nonono, that's not riling, it's the real scientists correting the young earth bullshiters.
And as for real scientists with real degrees...
Rule #1: If you make observations that contradict your previous beliefs, you re-evaluate your beliefs. See the difference?
I remember, in primary school, writing a hypothesis that was disproven, so I tried to doctor the results to show my hypothesis was correct.
This, apparently has now a fundamental part of the scientific process of young earth scientists.
Afraid? No. Mystified? Yes. Amused? Hell, yeah.
Young Earth hypothesis has already been refuted, again and again and again. They still pop up whit the same arguments.
"What is it with young earth scientists that gets everyone riled up so?"
The fact that they are liars by definition?
"What are people afraid of?"
That your lies and delusions are going to be forced into the schools to warp the minds of our children?
"It's just science like I thought people liked and put their faith in."
I think that you should try learning some grammar before you try telling the rest of us about anything involving higher education.
"The people that did the reasearch are real scientists, with real degrees."
A degree from Patriot University is not a real degree.
"Why make it a person attack?"
How is babby formed?
"The evidence speaks for itself."
Evidence--you keep using that word but I do not think that you know what it means.
The evidence indeed speaks for itself, and the young earth scenario is plainly wrong. Of course, your idea of a real scientist is probably Kent Hovind, in reality a convicted thief with a degree that's worth less than second hand toilet paper.
No wonder you clowns will believe anything, when you buy into the likes of old Kent.
Its more than evidence that is speaking, it is results. The Theory of Evolution has allowed numerous advances in medicine, agriculture and numerous other fields. These are tangible benefits that are improving the quality of life for people around the world, like vaccines.
YEC has produced nothing tangible. It benefits no one except YEC propagandists. And yet, ignorant fans of YEC demand it be given equal time in classrooms (at least) and that its proponents be given respect they have done absolutely nothing to earn.
That's why I, for one, am "riled up so!"
"It's just science"
bullshit
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