Okay here is the story—.
The answer is there IS a God, Jesus Christ our Lord in Savior! And everything is here because of our Loving God!!!!
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i love how the existence of a god, being "proved" by logic, immediately leads to christ existing.
Admittedly, the other student didn't have all the answers.
The reason scientific advances are made is because scientists didn't just say "It must be GOD!" whenever they didn't know the answer. Instead, they said, "I don't know, let's find out." And after a time, they discovered the answer. And it wasn't irreconcilable with religion, either.
Yeah, OK, but if was actually intelligent, he would never have made the claim that humans "evolved from apes." If he did say that, he's an idiot, and what does that say about you, his then-girlfriend?
Just because we don't know YET doesn't mean "god did it". People thought the sun was, or was being pulled by, a gawd. Some also believed geocentricity.
It's the Cosmological Argument! Now, even if we accept a first cause, why was it your God, and not Zeus, Brahman, or something that started the universe and either doesn't care or can't care? Can you answer that?
Holy shit! And you think he shut up because you presented him with irrefutable evidence to the contrary? Dear, he shut up because he realized he was hooked up with a nut case, and it was further unlikely that he would be getting in your panties.
So, you were a teenager and now you blatantly admit, probably in your late twenties, that you´re unable to spell. Only two options. Either you´re a troll or lying for Jesus. Because the Big Bang, believe me, IT´S NOT A BUNCH OF DUST. It´s more than that. And anyway, if God made the Big Bang(not improbable), why should we stick to Adam and Eve and all that nonsense?
so....God is a dust cloud? well, isn't that horribly self-defeating? and this conversation supposedly took place before you were a christian?
Hmmmm. continuity error.
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Nah, it's just a matter of fundie terminology: remember, for them you may be raised Xian, but you only become a True Christian when you get your lobotomy upon turning Born Again®.
OK, I'll humor you and pretend that you are correct in supposing that there is a god that created the universe and all. Now, how the heck do you make a logical connection from that supposition to claiming that "Jesus Christ [is] our Lord in [sic] savior"???
OK, so if we admit that maybe one or more gods, who may or may not have any other powers or any further interest in us, and who may or may not still be alive, created one or more Big Bangs, will the fundies shut up about the rest of the creationist nonsense?
Mistake number 1: You assume that everything must have a beginning. (And don't apply that logic to god; I can understand that though; God, given omnipotence, would not necessarily be subject to the laws of physics.)
Oh, yeah--he's loving all right.
This post (by smilingheart),
How this conversation should have gone:
The answer to the question of where the singularity came from is "We don't know yet". It could have been an older universe that imploded into a singularity. "God" is not an answer, because then comes the question of "where did God come from?", and "Which God is it?" must also be answered.
Your date probably realized that there was no point in discussing science with you, as you're way to dense to take in any new information.
Oh, and "somehow" is one word.
"Well, it can't be the principal force behind the universe's creation, but I'm determined to crowbar it in somewhere!"
Please do not be so pathetic. If your faith is so shaky that you need to look for gaps in our current scientific understanding and shove your god in there, just to sleep at night, you ought to re-examine your beliefs because you're very probably lying to yourself.
"and that some how MUST be GOD!!!"
unsubstantiated assertion. MUST BE GOD.
There is an idealogy that can't be proven and shows no sign of being real. Religion, all y'all.
You bitched out your boyfriend for not buying your total fable, with nothing to back it up at all because he had noticed that. I doubt he's totally commited to Big Bang theory, or even well versed in it.
Or possibly he might have thrown out " It was always there, all matter and energy in one area, that has always existed but not always in that form. Where did your God come from?" But he did that once and the Christian went apeshit about it and treated him like a vampire afterwards.
He's better off, it's one thing to keep a girlfriend happy but keeping their idea of God happy is impossible.
I believe this did occur because I've had similar arguments with people where they think "there must be a God" is a reasoned argument.
With a couple in-laws I began the campaign I don't recommend because they hate it when you throw their argument into everything, because after all God is everything.
"The ovens not working"
They hate it because they realize it's not the answer to everything you don't understand, but no, I still couldn't get them to apply it to higher mysteries.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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