(By destroying these social barriers that create hate, discrimination, and violence we help make the world a more peaceful place)
I argue that legalization would promote hate, discrimination, and violence against homosexuals. There would be lynch mobs if such a thing were legalized.
(You would preach intolerance of a group of people and how they wish to live and believe that this helps society when history has shown the opposite.)
History has shown that homosexuality destroys civilizations, such as ancient Greece and Rome. The Netherlands and Scandinavia are also starting to feel the negative affects of promoting same-sex marriage and homosexual.
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Homosexuality brought down the Greeks?
Sorry, no. It was the Romans.
Homosexuality brought down the Romans?
Sorry, no. It was the Ostragoths, the Visigoths, and the Vandals.
You really need to learn some history. No bunch of gay men have ever "brought down" a civilization. However, vast hordes of pissed off barbarians frequently have.
How?, by having one of the best social security system in the world?, by having the highest heigth ratio by this?. Besides, are you telling me that the two civilisations who shaped your culture were a failure?. As far as I'm concerned, if there are lynching mobs, the onus falls ENTIRELY on the mobs. It´s like saying "don't allow people live in houses, they will be bulglarised".
I argue that legalization would promote hate, discrimination, and violence against homosexuals. There would be lynch mobs if such a thing were legalized. If it were legalized? Guess what.
The Netherlands and Scandinavia are also starting to feel the negative affects of promoting same-sex marriage and homosexual. Tell us what those negative effects are. Go on.
Sandman nails it for identifying the real reasons for the decline and fall of ancient Greece and Rome. As far as the Netherlands and Scandinavia go, they're doing just fine, thank you. And none of the countries that have thus far legalized gay marriage are any the worse for it. So that makes you just another stinking, lying homophobe.
History has shown that homosexuality destroys civilizations, such as ancient Greece and Rome. The Netherlands and Scandinavia are also starting to feel the negative affects of promoting same-sex marriage and homosexual."
Yes, we are indeed feeling lots of negative effects. Worst of all is the ceaseless whining of conservative christians.
The gays are so happy, however that I can live with the bitching.
Congratulations. You've just made it very clear to the world that you know nothing about history.
The Greeks were just conquered (shame, too... they had so many neat little gadgets that were lost). The Romans simply expanded too much, then collapsed in a combination of internal weakness and external pressures. Like all empires do. It's history at its most basic. Homosexuality had nothing to do with it.
I guess the Ottoman Empire, the Soviet Union and the Caliphate of Cordoba were brought down by gays, too. And we all know that England lost the Americas and Spain lost Mexico because of gays. [/sarcasm]
Greece: crushed by invaders.
Rome: crushed by its own government, after becoming predominantly Christian.
Netherlands: doing just fine.
Scandinavia: cold, but doing okay.
Care to re-evaluate your argument?
"The Netherlands and Scandinavia are also starting to feel the negative affects of promoting same-sex marriage and homosexual."
No, they're not, you idiot. Neither is Belgium, or a host of other Western European nations.
I don't recall the exact reason the Greek empire fell, but I know for a fact that the Roman Empire's fall had nothing to do with homosexuality.
Also, you owe the Roman Empire a big thank you for making your religion as predominant as it is.
Ah, being homosexual or bisexual sure is great. This was my schedule for last weekend:
1) Indoctrinate a few innocent kids into my agenda. Also, gleefully warp their minds.
2) Undermine hetero marriage.
3) Take my kids to the beach.
4) Use my Satanic powers to lead others away from Gawd.
5) Make some cookies with my family.
6) Volunteer at the abused women's shelter
7) Work on destroying civilization.
We gays and bisexuals have such busy lives, I'll tell you :D
(3,5, and 6 are true btw. FEEL THE EVIL!)
Agreed to the above. We need to get rid of the state church IMHO, but that's about it. Not all that much can be done about the cold anyways. I strongly suspect that our dear bigot here doesn't know Scandinavia is actually three countries (or four? People count that differently, I think,) none of which are actually promoting same-sex marriage to any degree, although there is a rising acceptance of the idea.
This guy has never been to Scandinavia, has he? Last time I checked, Finland, Sweden and Norway still have some of the highest standards of living in the developed world. Also, I had no idea homosexuality destroyed Greece and Rome. I thought it was those darn Barbarians from the north who were to blame.
"History has shown that homosexuality destroys civilizations, such as ancient Greece and Rome."
(*pats Believe it!'s head *)
That's nice dear. Now go back to your ninja cartoon dear, the adults are talking.
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'The ancient Romans believed that buggery cause earthquakes'
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> I argue that legalization would promote hate, discrimination, and violence against homosexuals. There would be lynch mobs if such a thing were legalized.
That is where hate speech laws come in. With no one giving hate speeches, lynch mobs are harder to form.
Keeping homosexuality outlawed most certainly won't discourage hate crimes. It has never worked before, so why would suddenly start working now?
> History has shown that homosexuality destroys civilizations, such as ancient Greece and Rome.
> The Netherlands and Scandinavia are also starting to feel the negative affects [sic] of promoting same-sex marriage and homosexual.
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"The Netherlands and Scandinavia are also starting to feel the negative affects of promoting same-sex marriage and homosexual."
We do? How? Btw, how do we promote homosexual? Shouldn't it be "effects"?
History has shown that HATRED of homosexuality destroys civilizations.
I don't follow you; by legalizing homosexuality we get discrimination, but by not legalizing it we don't discriminate?
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