(NOM rabbi blaming death of 8-year-old boy by his father on passage of same-sex marriage in New York)
Why was this [death of Kletzky] allowed to happen? Let's think about it. If we go back to the cause, the effect was he was the victim, but the cause was a Jew [Yiddish] that the evil will come to destroy you within your midst. If it would have been a Gentile, people would be able to say, 'oh this is from the secular society.' But this is not from the secular society. This is, for too long we have been turning our cheek, we have been turning away and ignoring the agenda of the [Yiddish] -- first [gays] wanted rights, then they wanted adoption, they wanted special protections, and ultimately they wanted marriage -- and we all know that we did precious little. If those three or four thousand people, at the direction of their leaders and their common sense, would have come out...against the marriage, against this final nail in the coffin of morality...maybe we wouldn't have had to had this episode...replay itself.
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So "Yehuda Levin" is obviously blaming the death of a child on same-sex marriage. But apart from that, after reading his confused word salad, I don't have the slightest clue how he comes to this conclusion. His "argument" here in a nutshell: "8-yr old was killed because of ... blablergblubdroing ... same-sex marriage!"
Yownanymous
Anyone who uses the death of a child, particularly their own, for their own religious/political agenda is a low-down piece of pondscum.
This.
Look within yourselves for the cause of this tragedy, instead of insulting this poor child's memory by blaming others who had nothing to do with it. You may just save another child from such a fate.
Oh yeah - I'm sure the killer said "oh boy! Gays can marry, so now it's OK for me to kidnap and dismember an 8 year old boy". [/sarcasm]
The rabbi makes the common mistake of assuming that because Kletzky was a boy, the killer must be gay. Nonsense. The fact that he attacked a boy means nothing. Studies show that most pedophiles who attack young boys are either heterosexual in their adult relationships or have no adult sexual orientation and are attracted only to children. They may grab a child of either sex as the opportunity arises - and since boys are often not as closely watched as girls, boys are more likely to be victims.
The current suspect has been married several times. Co-workers called him a "loner". There's nothing yet to suggest he is gay in the sense of being sexually attracted to adult males.
This is a stretch even by fundie logic. So Rabbi Levin is unable to admit that even his religion has total psychopaths in it, psychopaths who would even kill children, so he MUST blame it on the gays, as if the murderer were so outraged at gay marriage that he took it out on the first person to come his way. Seriously? He doesn't gain any points for coherency, either. I can't follow his train of thought anyway, but the way it's phrased makes that even more impossible. Was this guy lapsing into Yiddish mid-speech or something?
"first [gays] wanted rights,"
"then they wanted adoption,"
"they wanted special protections,"
"and ultimately they wanted marriage"
Riiight. Blame anything you can pull out of your ass rather than admit the truth--that your holier-than-thou, seperatist cult is composed of regular, fallable human beings, some of whom are capable and/or guilty of child molestation, murder, and every other crime, just like the secular population.
Blaming this on gay marriage is just plain nuts. So gay couples are now able to have a ceremony & get a piece of paper which shows that their living together is legally legitimate, and this causes guys to abduct, kill, and dismember children?
God killed the son of a Rabbi because other people wanted gay marriage?
Once again, youGod sounds like a major dick head.
Levin's "logic" is the same horseshit sprayed by Falwell and Robertson after 9/11: the killers were only able to strike because God removed his special, loving protection from us, which he did because he was in a huff over the ACLU and the feminists and -- of course -- those horrible, horrible homos dancing in the streets. So that's why we have earthquakes and hurricanes and hot weather and cold weather and cancer and murder and all those other absolutely unprecedented signs from heaven.
A group of people wanting the same rights as everyone else should not be inhibited from those rights just because you personally think that some fucked up man killed his son supposedly due to these rights.
Fuck you.
If someone got angry and killed their child when slavery was being abolished do you think they would have just been like "Oh no, we have keep slavery now because some screwed up individual killed someone. Can't have that potentially ever happen again,because obviously it was caused by the slavery thing we were trying to get rid of."
Seriously, this is stupid & horrible in every way.
In light of the massacre in Norway, I'll only say this:
rightwing christian conservative
Yes, I know the rabbi is jewish. Same shit, different anus.
It's pretty easy to pin bad events on fictional character, eh YL? They never argue back or defend themselves in anyway,can't be sued for liable or slander, and you can target a group or person you want as the one(s) who ticked off said character. And , the only downside is you have to display your idiocy in public. Sweet deal, huh?
You guys are too cynical.
An event happened, then another event happened. And you DON'T think they're related at all!?
Yehuda Levin, you have forfeited your right to be called a human being for blaming the murder of a child by his own father on something that has no relevance, no effect on the father's actions and thereby demonizing an entire group of people and cheapening the death of this innocent boy. May your ultimate demise be slow and painful.
Rabbi, words cannot describe how disgusted I am with you.
Not only are you using a child's death for your political gain, you are giving ammo to anti-semites AND you once again make the "God of Love" look pure evil.
1. The boy's death was a terrible thing.
2. Your using it for your own bizarre political aims is also a terrible thing.
3. My father, who is Jewish, taught me that the growth of society is a natural and wonderful thing, especially when it promotes inclusiveness of minorities. This is (part of) what Judaism means to me. I cannot fathom what it means to you, but it seems to have more in common with fundamentalist Christianity than anything in the spirit of Jewish tradition.
1. Gays are allowed to get married.
Also, you're an odious shyster.
The fact that you are a religious "leader" makes you living proof that reality is defined by the craziest person in the room - at least for some people.
Here's another interpretation. You have absolutely no grasp of reality, no decent understanding of cause and effect, no shame, and no right to open the shit-spewing sewer you call a mouth, you fucking heartless and unrelenting sociopath. Why anyone listens to the insane ramblings of the likes of you is the biggest human tragedy of all time, and the root of racist (internecine human) strife. You are also living proof that you don't have to be intelligent to be a leader, merely pathological. The best part of you ran down your mother's leg, and the rest of you should die in a fire. Other than that, words fail me.
@Canadia
Oh wait, Vultures can fly...
"Why was this [death of Kletzky] allowed to happen? Let's think about it."
Because the jews rejected Jesus as the messiah.
Also, your gods aim isn't any better than the christian god.
Also also, this guy was looking for christian babies to use their blood to make jewish crackers, and he just made a mistake. It happens sometimes.
There was a car crash on I-75 which was caused by Mr. Jones' of Sydney, Australia eating Vegemite!
A baby pooping a diaper caused the Nuclear/Tsunami mess in Japan!
A GEICO ad came on TV, causing a Lapplander to feed a reindeer!
The monster in question brings shame on Judaism. For any Jew to approve of the persecution of a minority is an irony that has its roots in pure evil. I find it all but unbelievable that this Master (That's what Rabbi means, no?) cannot find love in his heart for fellow humankind. He is on par with Fred Phelps. Both of them are damned of God - if there is a god.
J. James
Can anyone point me to the part where it explains how it's -good lord, I can't believe I'm using their term now- the Gay Agenda's fault the kid got murdered? The logic escapes me. Perhaps if I draw it out... Work my way back to the beginning...
1: Kid gets brutally murdered.
Yehuda, your argument was featured in Bloom County well over a decade ago.
In the Penguin Lust arc, a couple of idiots say "We're tole only those free of sin should cast stones.." "So we CAST that Mutha!"
Man, I hope you and Carl Paladino are having fun jacking off to gay horse porn.
Also, the Old Testament is the WORST book in the bible.
Hey dumbass, if you're going to persecute others, perhaps we should invent a time machine and let you guys be persecuted much, much more.
You'd think the Jews, of all fucking people, would know what it was like to be scapegoated for everything bad that happened anywhere ever. I guess that sort of behaviour is only bad when it happens to them.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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