When will you learn? Never. The parasitic nature of Atheism dictates that it have something not to believe in, and without which its has no raisin date. If it ever finally defeats Christianity, some other belief-system will take over; jihadists and sharia-merchants are standing by.
Funny thing: you don't see F1 mechanics belittling ancient chariots, nor chemists berating the alchemists of yore for not knowing the intricacies of the Periodic Table, yet you do see Atheist-Evolutionists dissecting Genesis 1 and highlighting any scientific innaccuracies.
I suggest you see a shrink.
[Submitter's note: I think that "raisin date" is supposed to be the French phrase "raison d'etre.")
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Islam is waiting in the wings? Cognitive dissonance. We ALREADY disbelieve in Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Sikhism etc. and all other religious fantasies at the same time .
The scorn for Genesis is not for the errors of the past, but for the present day idiots who try pretending they're not there.
What we DO see is the deserving scorn of chemists heaped on modern-day idiots who argue for alchemy.
If only you'd thought to extend your analogy far enough!
Ah, but you see, chariots and alchemy where both done away with as people got smarter. If they weren't, you would be cursing at the guys riding around with horses on the freeway for holding up traffic.
Scientifically and socially conservative religions like Christianity and Islam do hold up our progress however by deeming what is morally right for the rest of society.
The inventors of ancient chariots and the alchemists of yore didn't claim to be omnipotent, which is why they escape the same retrospective criticism. The details of the Bible are belittled because people still believe them to be relevant, despite being wedged under a couple of thousand years' worth of scientific and technological advancements.
Oh, and No Christianity = Atheists Become Islamic Fundamentalists? Do shut up.
Actually, WMDKitty, I think "F1" means Formula One race cars , hence the comparison with chariots. You're right about it being a lousy comparison to religion, though.
"you don't see F1 mechanics belittling ancient chariots,"
That's because ancient chariots are more powerful than God. Especially the iron chariots.
nor chemists berating the alchemists of yore for not knowing the intricacies of the Periodic Table
Yet you see no group of "the true and only alchemists" fighting with logical fallacys for the truth of their 4-element model.
but there are lots of stupids fighting for this so outdatet (as i understand you right) genesis 1
Do you see Chariot builders trying to get their craft into shop class because it's just as viable a means of transport? Do you see alchemists trying to slip their ideals into Chemistry class, because there are those who believe it to be true, as well? No, because if they did, they'd be laughed into oblivion. Yet you guys insist Genesis must be slid into biology class because of it's "scientific infallibility." Ask yourself now why we pick it apart.
We aren't berating religious nutjobs of yore, we are berating current day religious nutjobs in the same way we would berate modern day alchemists.
You are a stupid douchebag.
Atheism ISN'T parasitic. It's just non-belief. If no one believed in god, atheism wouldn't go away, it just wouldn't be special enough to get a name of its own anymore.
Funny, I DO see vehicle engineers pointing out the errors of ancient chariots (if they weren't, we'd still be using chariots), and I DO see chemists berating the alchemists of yore (if they weren't, we'd still be trying to turn lead into gold).
Raisins have dates? ("coody taw", that should have been coup d'etat, right?)
Atheism does not dictate anything, that is the very nature of atheism. If there is someone to dictate, then there is also someone to listen to and worship, and the whole A-theism falls.
You shouldn't make fun of ignorance. If a thing was not yet discovered or invented, then the people of that day could not be expected to know that thing.
We don't really berate the goat herders of the past for writing and believing in Genesis. What we do is berate today's folk for STILL believing in ancient myths over hard science.
If someone today maintained that alchemy was the RIGHT way to go, and that chemists are godless heathens, then you have a true parallel to your Genesis anecdote.
'you don't see F1 mechanics belittling ancient chariots' No but I want too.
'nor chemists berating the alchemists of yore for not knowing the intricacies of the Periodic Table' EEERR Yes they do. (we call it chemistry)
Atheists and other non-Christians would ignore the book of Genesis altogether if idiots would stop pretending that Gen. 1-10 were a science text.
However, some Christians are trying to force us to teach Genesis in public schools. If something is treated as science, then it must be examined objectively for error. If it doesn't stand up to scrutiny, then it's not good science.
Galen believed that some blood vessels carry air. While we continue calling these vessels "arteries," and the history of medicine does owe a lot to Galen and his predecessors, we no longer insist that arteries transport air, because we know from experiment that they carry blood.
Genesis is either a science book, to be objectively examined, or a religious text, which members of the Christian religion take on faith. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
> you don't see F1 mechanics belittling ancient chariots,
A relatively slow-moving horse chariot on F1 track would be a pretty big hazard. If a chariot shows up on F1 track, I'm pretty sure someone will stop the race and say a few well-chosen, not-so-nice words.
> nor chemists berating the alchemists of yore for not knowing the intricacies of the Periodic Table,
If you pit a modern chemist and an alchemist of old against each other, the former might go "We have predictable, tangible results. We win. Let me show you how it's done, okay?"
Chariots=Real
Alchemy=Real (but misguided)
Genesis=Fabrication
BTW. The only time Genesis gets dissected, or is even given a thought, by atheists is when some idiot fundy tries to assert that it's real. Plus, many devout Christians realize that Genesis is not anything like an accurate account.
Raisin date! Brilliant.
I used to think "this day and age" was "this dayn age", where "dayn" was some old-fashioned word that had only survived in that one phrase. But that, of course, a) made a lot more sense than "raisin date", and b) was when I was six.
Raisin date?
I actually LOLed.
Still LOLing, actually.
Funny thing: you don't see F1 mechanics belittling ancient chariots, nor chemists berating the alchemists of yore for not knowing the intricacies of the Periodic Table, yet you do see Atheist-Evolutionists dissecting Genesis 1 and highlighting any scientific innaccuracies.
That's just the point, and you've got it absolutely backwards. If you showed up to an F1 race in a goddamn chariot, or talked alchemy in a modern laboratory, those people would belittle you. They would belittle you a lot. Which is why it isn't any different when you try to weigh into evolutionary biology or cosmology by blathering about ancient fucking myths.
Except nobodies trying to say that chariots are better than F1's or that alchemy is better than chemistry.
Okay, the second one's a lie, and that's why this site is here. But I'm sure that using terms like raisin date showed the people at Pharyngula your superior intelligence.
And since I have it.
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Funny thing: you don't see F1 mechanics belittling ancient chariots, nor chemists berating the alchemists of yore for not knowing the intricacies of the Periodic Table, yet you do see Atheist-Evolutionists dissecting Genesis 1 and highlighting any scientific innaccuracies.
Well,
modern chemists would definitely berate people who get out an ancient alchemical journal and tries to use it to find ways to transmutate silver into gold.
Also modern biologists would berate people who get their knowledge from old biological manuals and claim that we see by emitting beams out of our eyes, that the brain is only there to cool the blood and that life could becreated out of nothing.
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David D.G.
LMAO,raisin date. did this guy never read a book?
I would just like to say that I did not write comment #1072281. I don't think the comment particularly impugns me, but I don't appreciate someone hijacking my username here, even for an innocuous comment. (Heck, we already also have a David G. who posts here occasionally, and that's confusing enough!)
~David D.G.
So, if Christianity is totally wiped out of the country, then we'll have Muslims running things? The problem with that is that you Christians think that this is a Christian theocracy, and if Christianity is gone then Islam gets to take over. It certainly doesn't help with you people constantly trying to tear down the wall of separation of church & state.
oh man, raisin date....i'm going to start using that. that's brilliant in a forehead slapping way. also, ancient chariots worked well and very few people still practice alchemy, though presumably chemists and any rational person would mock those who do. a better question is how come everyone realizes alchemy and roman mythology are bogus but not modern religions?
I would not mock the Greek philosophers, because they didn't have the knowledge. or even access to it. We mock you, Because you have access to the knowledge, but willingly choose not to comprehend it.
If it ever finally defeats Christianity, some other belief-system will take over; jihadists and sharia-merchants are standing by.
And atheists still won't care. If you're going to fight against something, learn what it is first.
Atheism dictates that it have something not to believe in
I searched for years for something not to believe in.
When I was younger I could believe, and remember, almost everything, whether it happened or not.
Then one day I heard of atheism. No, that wouldn't quite work. Hmmm.
Then early one weekend morning two assholes knocked on my door and they had such a story!
I found it!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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