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If judges and lawmakers in our land fail to respect the limits of legitimate government power, then we as free citizens of the U. S. must do the right thing by refusing to comply with government mandates that violate God-given rights. In that way, we remind our government by our actions, not just by our words, that it is not God, and that it loses its authority to compel obedience when it violates our rights with which we have been endowed by our Creator and which are secured to us by the highest law of the land-- the U.S. Constitution (particularly, the Bill of Rights and the ninth amendment concerning 'non-enumerated rights'). Government has no legitimate authority to pass laws that violate the superior claims of natural law or that seek to nullify natural law. That's why these 'gay marriage' laws are bogus-- for government has no right to compel citizens under threat of penalty to recognize and treat things as equal which nature teaches are unequal, nor to recognize and treat things as unequal which nature teaches are equal. Hitler tried to do that when he tried to get the German people to treat the Jews as 'unequal' to other citizens; he had no authority to do that, just as our government has no authority to compel us to treat homosexual unions as "equal" to heterosexual unions. Civil disobedience was required of freedom lovers then (under Hitler) and it is required of freedom lovers now (under Obama).
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Um. Okay. Calm down and back away from the keyboard.
I get it. You don't like teh geyz. I got that.
The thing is, if you're straight and don't want to marry someone of the same gender, gay marriage quite literally has no impact on you. Nothing about your life changes when some gay couple completely unknown to you, decides to get hitched. I don't see how you're losing any freedom whatsoever.
And I thought that the Declaration of Independence said that all men are created equal. I don't see how a straight man and a gay man are naturally unequal. (They may be legally or politically unequal in the current climate, but those inequalities have nothing to do nature and everything to do with man-made government...)
Hitler tried to do that when he tried to get the German people to treat the Jews as 'unequal' to other citizens; he had no authority to do that, just as our government has no authority to compel us to treat homosexual unions as "equal" to heterosexual unions.
In accordance with my new resolution, I will just say this:
Fuck you, asshole!
@anothga:
But, what are these natural laws?
No one seems to know, but strangely enough, if someone uses that term, these laws always do allow everything he agrees with and prohibit everything he disagrees with
@1597873:
What civil disobedience are you gonna do, exactly?
He will refuse to get a same sex marriage. That’ll show them!
Good thing then that Nature teaches that homosexuality is normal and equal.
Hitler sent gay people to concentration camps. Don't you wish you could do that too?
The Southerners tried to get the American people to treat darker-skinned people as "unequal" to other citizens; they had no authority to do that. The Southerners were then "compelled under threat of penalty to recognize and treat" darker-skinned people as equal to lighter-skinned people.
Consensual adult unions ARE equal regardless of genders involved, dumbass!
Yup, just like people were hiding gay people (under Hitler), people are still fighting for human rights for gay people today.
Why no love for the freedoms of gay people, Marty-boy?
Government has no legitimate authority to pass laws that violate the superior claims of natural law or that seek to nullify natural law.
OK, please point out where it says that in the Constitution and I'll believe you.
Define this nebulous "natural law". If you simply mean that homosexuality is "unnatural", well, there are many, many species in which homosexuality has been observed, and likely to be many more that we simply haven't observed such behaviour in yet. There are no other species in which homophobic behaviour has been observed though. Which seems more "unnatural" to you?
Nature teaches me a lot of things, chief among them is that you are a moron.
And you churchie folks are a little late to the "Hitler treated the Jews really badly" table. I remember reading about how the good Christians in the Thirties fighting against allowing more Jews into the US. It was only after the War that, Like Henry Ford, did the anti-Jewish immigration types publicly voice the opinion that "Maybe we should have let in a few more."
we as free citizens of the U. S. must do the right thing by refusing to comply with government mandates that violate God-given rights
"God made me do it" isn't a valid defense. In the US, there are no "God-given rights"; only constitutional rights. If God wants to give you rights, He's free to do so, but you're not free to invent a right and claim it was God's idea.
government has no right to compel citizens under threat of penalty to recognize and treat things as equal which nature teaches are unequal
Sure they do. In the US, our elected representatives can pass any law they wants as long as they follow the rules set forth in the Constitution.
"Natural law", "God's will", what constitutes freedom. It's amazing how those are always precisely the same as whatever the user already believes. Freedom is the same thing as oppressing a minority or having a theocracy. To a KKK member, it's part of natural law that blacks are inferior to whites. God's will commands that preachers and televangelists drive around in expensive cars. But, using them this way makes those terms become completely useless. Why not just admit that it's your opinion? Not God's will, not natural, and not freedom. Just your opinion. Oh, right, because you're hoping some gullible fool will believe you simply based on your false authority. And if you have to resort to giving yourself false authority then it shows that your opinion cannot stand on its own merits.
"Hitler tried to do that when he tried to get the German people to treat the Jews as 'unequal' to other citizens; he had no authority to do that"
Yes he had, you fuckshit.
You know, considering that "government has no right to compel citizens under threat of penalty to recognize and treat things as equal which nature teaches are unequal, nor to recognize and treat things as unequal which nature teaches are equal" is VERY close to being a direct quote from Mein Kampf, I'm not sure this guy is on the side he thinks he's on.
Look it up: "Eternal Nature inexorably revenges the transgressions of her laws" is just one example. Hitler was REALLY big on natural law and how weak, Marxist governments couldn't go against it.
What do you want to bet that this keyboard hero would fold like a bad poker hand if he was confronted by police officers at a rally? "Sorry, officer, I didn't mean to yell, 'Die, fags!' No, officer, I'll never do it again. Yes, officer, I'm leaving now."
"Congress shall not declare equal, those who GOD declared unequal!" - Fernando Wood (Lee Pace) in "Lincoln"
'course, he was talking about slavery... but then again, the rhetoric is pretty much the same.
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