The theory of gravity has never been invoked to justify mass murder, genocide or eugenics. Darwin's theory of evolution has. From Marx to Hitler, the men responsible for the greatest mass murders of the 20th century were avid Darwinists.
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Funny, I thought Marx was a...wait for it...Marxist, and wasn't Hitler famous for a little something called Nazism? Dipstick. I want to buy a massive hammer to hit people like this with. I shall name it Godwin. :oD
And Marx killed who, again? Not to mention ... Communist Manifesto, 1848 - On The Origin of Species, 1857.
So? I couldn't care less if someone found a video of Hitler saying he was motivated by Darwinism. That also applies to Attila the Hun, Stalin, Mao, Saddam Husein, Napoleon, heck any mass murderer.
Hitler was a Christian, Marx was a economic theorist who never killed anyone. Provide a cite to prove either was a "Darwinist"(?) Darwin never advocated mass murder, genocide, or eugenics in anything I've read. And you appear to be a liar or an ignorant fraud. Have a nice day!
Marx never invoked Darwin, because, at the time he wrote his manifesto, Darwin hand't published yet the Origin of species. And Hitler never mentioned Darwin. Has gravity been used for mass murder?, neither has evolution. And by the way, following your logic, we could say that the agricultural revolution was the origin of slavery.
Marx never engaged in mass murderer. In case you're referring to Stalin, he was an avid Lysenkoist. Hitler, insofar as his writings mean anything, was an avid creationist. Have a nice day.
Well you may have a case with Marx. They must have called him "Mad Dog" Marx for a reason. Geez, what a maroon.
And here I thought that Karl Marx's political theories could be considered contrary to natural selection, what with equal distribution of wealth and all. Social "Darwinism," sure...but not natural selection or Darwinian evolution.
the men responsible for the greatest mass murders of the 20th century were avid Darwinists.
Yeah Hitler never attempted to desroy any communist rallys or nothing. What the fuck does evolution have to do with MArx? Marx wasn't an avid darwinist and Hitler was a politcally extreme right winged christian sociopath. Further more to end the stupidity once and for all, it was not hitlers intention nor even his orders. He wanted to ship them all off to madagascar off all places(he wasn't a very bright man) It was Himmler the man in charge of the concentration camps who suggested the final solution. Hitler was a jerk, Marx a little bit too trusting of humanity but get your facts right fundys!
Hitler's eugenics ideas may have been based on Darwinism, but that doesn't change the validity of the theory of evolution. However, "morally wrong" the truth may be, it's still the truth.
"The undermining of the existence of human culture by the destruction of its bearer seems in the eyes of a folkish philosophy the most execrable crime. Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent Creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise. " (Hitler 1943, 383)mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. " (Hitler 1943, 214)
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord " (Hitler 1943, 65).
You were saying, wizzy?
the idea of natural selection is that it's natural. Natures the one that culls the herd not humans. For you to try and discredit evolution by claiming that some of it's followers used it to justify murder is a little hypocritical. Like you christians often down, us evolutionists should start claiming that Hitler and Stalin weren't 'true' evolutionist.
#269903: And don't forget that their own holy book paints their skygod as a murderous, spiteful, hateful, egotistical asshole of a madman. The Flood? Sodom? Ordering his own followers to kill EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING as they retook the promised land?
And, of course, he hasn't lifted a finger since those legendary times, for good or ill.
The only reason you people don't think gravity is evil is because the people who wrote the bible understood gravity enough to not write anything monumentally wrong about it.
Because if people floated before the fall gravity would be a tool of Satan, and "only a theory," just like evolution by natural selection.
"The theory of gravity has never been invoked to justify mass murder, genocide or eugenics."
Religion, on the other hand, ...
*facepalm*
Hitler had "On the Origin of Species" burned. That's how much he liked Darwin.
"Funny, I thought Marx was a...wait for it...Marxist"
don't forget he denied being one "all i know is that i am not a marxist"
Karl Marx was not responsible for any atrocities, okay. He could hardly be respnsible for mass murder in the 20th century when he died in 1883. Fuck off.
Marx wrote the concept of communism, it's important to note he didn't impliment it nor was it a marxist state in the end, many of Marx's ideas were not included.
Why won't Christians ever accept Hitlers Christianity? Because that would be admitting one raised in the church is completely capable of the worst things, because if they keep claiming this many will believe it. And it's working, I've seen many Atheists accept the "Hitler just used Christianity" or "Hitler pretended to earn their trust" scenarios.
Bullshit. The Priests do that themselves. Christianities entire history is marked with like atrocities, including your precious American sects. All Y'all, not one of you or your leaders have any higher moral ground. Christianity has been at the forefront of racial intolerance for every century of their existance.
You can't use Darwin for your scapegoat when your priests are blessing war machines to this day.
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