So if you guys are all so freaking clever how cum none of you realized that the KJV is from the 1300s not 1610 as suggested above.
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From Wikipedia, because you obviously have no clue about your own bible.The King James Version of the Bible, or Authorized Version, first published in 1611, has had a profound impact on English literature. The works of famous authors such as John Bunyan, John Milton, Herman Melville, John Dryden, and William Wordsworth are replete with inspiration derived from the King James Version. The term King James Version (KJV) is more commonly used in the USA, whilst the term Authorized Version (AV) is more commonly used in the UK, although both terms are generally understood to mean the same thing.
The New Testament of the King James Version was translated from the Received Text (Textus Receptus), called so because most extant texts of the time were in agreement with it. The Old Testament of the King James Version is translated from the Masoretic Hebrew Text.
Modern English Bibles such as the New American Standard Bible and the English Standard Version derive their authority from a completely different set of New Testament manuscripts (earlier Egyptian Minority Texts as opposed to the later Byzantine Majority Texts).
Although it is often referred to as the King James Version, the only active part King James took in the translation was lifting the criminal (death) penalty attached to its translation and setting very reasonable guidelines for the translation process (such as prohibiting partisan scholarship and footnotes.)
Canadian Malcontent, if YOU are so freaking clever, how come (note the spelling of the non-obscene version of the word) you are so oblivious to the actual history of the book you evidently worship?
Aaaaaaaaah, fundy debating 101. When presented with facts, deny them categorically and invent your own - and call everyone who knew the facts, stupid.
So if you guys are all so freaking clever how cum none of you realized that the KJV is from the 1300s not 1610 as suggested above. Your submissions beg the granting of innumerable premise' however you collectively grant none to those who are outside your ... uhhh.... mindset.
Our premises tend to have evidence for them. Yours do not.
Chaucer wrote the Canterbury Tales in the last couple decades of the 1300s. I'm sure every 12th-grade English reading book has at least the first few lines of the prologue printed in the original language.
Here's 1300 English:
anevilmeme: Canada must have a South too!
"So if you guys are all so freaking clever how cum none of you realized that the KJV is from the 1300s not 1610 as suggested above."Well, we are so clever as to realize that King James was no alive in the 1300s. Also, we are so clever as to have noticed the official date of the KJV is 1611, not 1610.
"There are no real arguments here just nattering over details."
I agree, you have no real agrument to present. Now shut up and go home.
"Your submissions beg the granting of innumerable premise' however you collectively grant none to those who are outside your ... uhhh.... mindset."
It's true, our premises require evidence and logic. We are happy to consider all of your arguments which are based on evidence and logic. Fair is fair. However, if your agrument is based on ancient fairy tales, wishful thinking and theological dogma, I don't think we'll have much interest in it.
"What I view here is akin to a group of scientologists or nazis doing the support group thing."
Well, then your view is mistaken. Stupid, thoughtless and mistaken.
Nothing screams group support for ridiculous positions louder than church services and Bible study groups.
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Here's 1300 English:
Lauerd me steres, noght wante sal me:
Sound like the KJV? I didn't think so, either. Hint: \"For, and ife I ga in mid schadw ofe dede,\" = KJV \"yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death ...\"
^This. If it had been translated in the 1300s, you would have an even harder time understanding it than you, you know, do anyway.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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