[fundie mathematician proves probability of enzyme formation =1]
No it is not. It would take 1 to the 40,000th power for the enzyme to come together by random trial. That is only the enzyme, which builds the gene, which builds the cell. This could not be faced even if the whole universe consisted of organic soup.
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Once again the fundies demonstrate their total lack of understanding of basic probality and statistics.
Given enough time, any result that is not impossible will eventually occur.
You know that old chestnut with the watch in the bag? You put an unassembled watch in a bag and shake it up, and the evolution is as likely as the watch just reassembling itself through pure chance.
The problem with that metaphor, of course,it that given enough watches and enough bags and enough time...eventually one of the disassembled watches WOULD reassemble itself through pure chance.
Someone take a baseballs bat. Write in big letters on the bat: "IMPROBABLE IS NOT THE SAME AS IMPOSSIBLE." Then go to wherever the fundies hang out and smack them in the forehead with the Clue Bat until the get it.
1 to the 40,000th power = 1
Well, thanks for clearing that up!
Some of the other comments in that thread are equally coma-inducing by virtue of their sheer idiocy.
Sorry
Been done in the lab.
Science 7 April 2006:
Vol. 312. no. 5770, pp. 97 - 101
DOI: 10.1126/science.1123348
Reports
Evolution of Hormone-Receptor Complexity by Molecular Exploitation
Jamie T. Bridgham, Sean M. Carroll, Joseph W. Thornton*
According to Darwinian theory, complexity evolves by a stepwise process of elaboration and optimization under natural selection. Biological systems composed of tightly integrated parts seem to challenge this view, because it is not obvious how any element's function can be selected for unless the partners with which it interacts are already present. Here we demonstrate how an integrated molecular systemthe specific functional interaction between the steroid hormone aldosterone and its partner the mineralocorticoid receptorevolved by a stepwise Darwinian process. Using ancestral gene resurrection, we show that, long before the hormone evolved, the receptor's affinity for aldosterone was present as a structural by-product of its partnership with chemically similar, more ancient ligands. Introducing two amino acid changes into the ancestral sequence recapitulates the evolution of present-day receptor specificity. Our results indicate that tight interactions can evolve by molecular exploitationrecruitment of an older molecule, previously constrained for a different role, into a new functional complex.
If the entire universe consisted of organic soup, with the same temperature and pressure as inside a cell, and this soup contained both genes and proteins to handle the genes...
1/4 of the universe would be enzyme within an hour.
Oh my LORD, how did I MISS that?!? It's been a long time since I took maths in University, but isn't 1 to the 40,000th power still ONE?
Wouldn't 1 to the 40,000th power be.. 1?
And also I have no idea what this guy is talking about. Coherent sentences next time, please.
"It's not impossible, just highly improbable."
(or something like that, forget the actual words)
Confused?
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