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We Know God Exists because:
1. the universe could not always have been here, nor could it have made itself from nothing [...]
3. consciousness, that is, self-awareness is non-physical and could not arise from atoms and molecules [...]
5. the laws of physics cannot account for broad and extraordinary features of the solar system [...]
7. human behavior indicates the existence of the soul and spirit and the real existence of ideas indicate the existence of a non-physical reality
8. higher biological functions like sight, flight, and echo-location are so wildly and irreducibly complex they could not evolve in stages
9. apart from the existence of God, logic and reason have no foundation, and thus leading atheists deny the objective nature of the laws of logic
10. God has revealed Himself uniquely in the Bible and confirmed its claims through scientific statements, prophecies, and many other wonderful proofs that God became flesh in Jesus Christ, who was crucified by Pontius Pilate, and rose from the dead on the third day, according to the Scriptures, and that those who trust in Him will have everlasting life.

Cheers to the existance of God!

What say ye?

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old comment by GigaGuess

1.) Yet the fact that God either WAS created from nothing or has always been is somehow assumed. Double standard much?
3.) Self-Awareness came way, way down the line. Long after particles. Long after bacterium. A long, long, LONG time afterwards. See, we don't believe we were just plunked down as is.
5.) Such as what? A sun? It's a ball of gas undergoing a tremdous fusion reaction. The planets? Held in the gravitational pull of that massive ball of gas. What do you mean by this, aside from the fact that you're being intentionally vague to keep the target muddy?
7.) Prove it. Go on, prove how these things are unique to the presence of a soul, and not simply the product of being a social creature (Assuming you mean things like basic morality and such. Again, you're being incredibly vague here.)
8.) Sight likely began as a sensitivity to light that developed from there. Flight, likely developed from an ability to glide or flutter. Echolocation developed as a means to explore darker habitats which were less frequented by other species.
9.) Actually, logic and reason dictate that if you cannot see, taste, touch, smell, hear, measure or qunatify something, that it, rather than being invisible, and divorced from reality as we knw it, likely does not exist.
10.) God is real because the Bible says he's real. We know it's right because the Bible is the word of God. That's true becaue it's in the Bible. Repeat ad nauseum.

“1. the universe could not always have been here,”
All the arguments i’ve seen against this possibility use the conditions found within the universe, without showing how they know they still apply to the universe itself.

“nor could it have made itself from nothing”
As above.

“3. consciousness, that is, self-awareness is non-physical”
I can’t believe that. I’ve seen too many drunks. Can’t see how a non-physical trait would be SO VERY subject to chemical pollution.
Not to mention getting knocked out for surgery by the careful application of chemical pollutants.

"and could not arise from atoms and molecules”
Feel free to show your work supporting this conclusion.

“5. the laws of physics cannot account for broad and extraordinary features of the solar system"
Two responses come to mind: Have you actually asked an astrophysicist?
and: …Yet.

“7. human behavior indicates the existence of the soul and spirit and the real existence of ideas indicate the existence of a non-physical reality”
Two reponses come to mind again: Poppy! and Cock!

“8. higher biological functions like sight, flight, and echo-location are so wildly and irreducibly complex they could not evolve in stages”
Sight is reducible to light-sensitivity.
Flight is reducible to gliding.
Echolocation is reducible to squeaking and hearing.

“9. apart from the existence of God, logic and reason have no foundation, and thus leading atheists deny the objective nature of the laws of logic”
If only GOD can make logic, then it’s not an objective nature. Words mean things.
I was doing sudoku last night. You’re saying that arranging the 9 numbers in 9 columns and 9 rows can ONLY work if a supreme being personally set up the rules. That in a godless universe i could indeed make a column of nine 9’s and not violate the rules?
Poppy.

“10. God has revealed Himself uniquely in the Bible and confirmed its claims through scientific statements,”
Four-legged insects? The sky hard like a brass mirror? Rain coming from holes in the sky?

“prophecies, and many other wonderful proofs that God became flesh in Jesus Christ, who was crucified by Pontius Pilate, and rose from the dead on the third day, according to the Scriptures, and that those who trust in Him will have everlasting life.:
It’s so sad that you believe this crap AND insist that logic proves god exists.

Hod has revealed Himself uniquely in the Billboard and filmed its Marc icons through scientific props, hi ashes statement pieces and many other wonderful roofs that Hod became flesh in Justa Crank, who was crucified by Pontius the Pilot and rose from the dead on the day, according to the Third Stripe Curs and that those who trust everlasting in Him will have life.