You obviously don't see what I am saying. We have women who think it is ok to have sex, and then when they get pregnant , they just go and kill the baby. Is that not murder?
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If it's within the first trimester or so, absolutely not.
It *IS* rather irresponsible if there's not some form of birth control being attempted as well; but none of those are perfect, and abortion is a legal and legitimate backup plan. It is NOT murder.
~David D.G.
Yeah, this person's real problem is "women who think it is ok to have sex." After all, sex is a horrible, sinful, evil, dirty thing you should save for someone you love, and babies are a gift from God who loves you so much that you're being punished for opening your legs by having one.
Blah. Stupid things to think.
Small Rant about Fundies, Marriage and Sex:
And this is why the insitution of marriage has no meaning to me. My loving, monogamous sex with my non-married partner is terrible and lustful and EVIL and SINFUL, but if we get married, hey presto, it's now LOVE.
Futhermore, suggestions that marriage solve all STD, pregnancy and break-up problems are unfounded, and unrealistic. If I got pregnant now, it would not change my situation if I was married or not: my partner would still support me and my decisions, but as financially-dependent students with no employment and desires to actually finish studies, I'd be just as screwed no matter what.
But fundies don't get it.
No it is not murder and has been so decided by the courts. Get over it.
So married women who do not want a child presently, should not think it is okay to have sex, even though there is a risk of pregnancy with all forms of birth control?
WsbBP seems to assume that unmarried persons having sex don't use birth control. I can tell you from experience, the best laid (pun intended) plans can fail.
Perhaps she is suggesting some moronic idea that no one should have sex until they're married and ready to have babies. Yeah, good luck with that one.
Well, it can't be murder, since it's not unlawful.
But even disregarding that, during the first trimester, and at least a fair bit into the second, you're no more killing a human than if you get clorox on your hands.
Excerpt from
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/teensexualhealth/fact-pregnancy-teens-us.xml
Rates of Teenage Childbearing in the U.S. Are the Highest in the Developed World.
The U.S. teenage birth rate is the highest in the developed world: two and a half times as high as Australia's, more than two and a half times as high as Canada's, more than three times as high as Germany's, nearly five times as high as France's, seven times as high as Japan's, and seven and a half times as high as the Netherlands' (United Nations, 2005).
Reasons for the lower rates of teenage childbearing in these countries include
mandatory, medically accurate sexuality education programs that provide comprehensive information and encourage teens to make responsible choices
easy access to contraception and other forms of reproductive health care, including abortion
social acceptance of adolescent sexual expression as normal and healthy
straightforward public health media campaigns
government support for the right of teens to accurate information and confidential services (Berne & Huberman, 1999)
Yes, we see. Only that it is not always sex. You haven´t mentioned rape, incest.........you haven´t mentioned that there is a man involved too. So, I think it´s you who have turned a blind eye on the subject.
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