Thanks to what I suspect is your Gododgery we are are now talking at cross purposes.
To believe that there is no self to exist and so all existential thought is meaningless is a belief position which has a low existential stake
Bluehillside is fundementally asking us to believe in the elephant in the room of no Gods on a belief position which has low existential stake.
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You know, maybe a truly all-powerful, all-knowing, all-benevolent god doesn't punish you forever for not being his cheerleader.
The pros and cons of beliefs in nothing at all, in all of its glorious manifestations, point decisively in favour of the existence of Bible God. Who knew?
Or:-
The continuing wonders of Desperanto.
Or:-
I believe in God, and will spout vacuous nobbins in support of that belief. So that's that! I now declare the hunting season open! Let the persecutions begin!
'Whatever happened to the Leprechauns'? They've been replaced by Rainbow Dash, natch. /)^3^(\
She - and the rest of the Mane Six et al - are certainly a Pot of Gold for Hasbro. Awesome!
...and why did I read that first line as 'Goodyear ery we are are now talking at cross' -ply ?! X3 Mayhaps because I'm becoming tyre d of your so-called 'philosophical' BS o fundies, I'm actually glad of the "Lawnmower Man"-esque film Transcendence with Johnny Depp, despite Hollywood's lack of originality these days, as the likes of this - as per "The Matrix" films - renders 'Existentialism' as nothing more than pseudo-religious BS.
R&D into AIs is going on apace. As per "Transcendence", what about AS s in the future...?! [/Masamune Shirow] >:D
selfish, self-centered, egoistic. He basically says that stakes are important for all mankind if, and only if, the topic is important to him.
Hey, man, wake up : you are not the center of the world. Just the center of your own navel.
"If I reject what some claims of God claim and they are true I face self alienation and alienation from all.Those are different stakes if true."
If I reject what some claims of God claim and they are true I face self alienation and alienation from all.
But since there are thousands of different claims about god or gods, you must automatically reject most of them simply by choosing one. And since the probability of choosing the right one is almost zero, you can't lower your "existential stake": like death and taxes, you're screwed anyway.
See the "argument from inconsistent revelations".
The key phrase being "if true". Not all statements are equally valid. If I told you that Donald Trump was going to murder your wife, not believing that would have very high stakes...if true. But the chances of that being true are so small it isn't even worth considering.
PS - You use a lot of big words for being such an idiot.
Pascal's wager as stated by an insane moron!
Also most Islamic sects, notably Sunni Islam, has no notion of a permenant hell and Shiites even allow intercession on the behalf of the dead.
@breakerslion
The End of Pascal's Wager
"Chew on that, "Whatever happened to the leprechauns?" if you can comprehend it."
And of course, there's this quote:
'Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just , then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust , then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. '
-Marcus Aurelius
That ancient Roman won the bet way before Pascal existed to make his 'Wager', eh?!
Pascal's Wager has always been wrong, both logically and morally. I don't care if God exists or not, as I think the concept of a God is revolting. If the only way this god of yours can convince me to worship him is by torture, I invite him to try. At least I'll spend eternity with better company.
"If Kevin the pixie is true then by rejeccting him all I face is not having him provide honey for my toast."
You don't know that. For all you know Kevin the Pixie is going to tie your soul to a groundhog for even suggesting he's some honey delivery boy.
Pascal's Wager doesn't fly as it assumes one God in the equation, there are other beliefs as equal as Biblical ones.
Anger Zeus at your own peril, I'm not saying Zeus would fuck you up but you better not push your luck.
^That's how you actually do Pascal's Wager.
And,
That's why Beatnik, Redneck, Hippy, Trump fucks, New Age, concepts die a sorry death because nothing will ever be all-encompassing and none of them can or will agree on defining the terms of themselves let along the broader concepts.
Existentialism is everything you can imagine.
You need a Godhead/Controler Creator/Diety to lock it in and ain't none y'all can agree on that.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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