[Re: "An Inconvenient Truth"]
THIS MOVIE IS AN INSULT TO THE FAMILIES OF 9/11 VICTIMS
It is unpatriotic to criticise the government in times of war. Instead of whining and scaring everybody, Gore should back the president 100%, It sickens me that Gore doesn't even care to mention 9/11 in the film, as if it didn't even happen.
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Our country was FOUNDED on dissent and criticism of the government, even during times of war.
Is it just me, or did "An Inconvenient Truth" have nothing to do with 9/11?
The only mention to 9/11 in the movie is that if climate change continues to happen as the scientists have [so far correctly] predicted, the World Trade Center Memorial site will be under water.
Seconding Incubusion's statements. When "patriotism" becomes synonimous with "not arguing with the government," we'll have officially failed everything this country was founded on.
"I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. " -James BaldwinPatriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official... " -Theodore Roosevelt
""My country, right or wrong" is a thing no patriot would ever think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying "My mother, drunk or sober. " G. K. Chesterton:
"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it. " George Bernard Shaw:
"The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naïve and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who likes his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair. In the United States, doing good has come to be, like patriotism, a favorite device of persons with something to sell. H. L. Mencken:
"Men in authority will always think that criticism of their policies is dangerous. They will always equate their policies with patriotism, and find criticism subversive. " Henry Steele Commager:
"During times of war, hatred becomes quite respectable, even though it has to masquerade often under the guise of patriotism. " Howard Thurman:
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. (1918) Theodore Roosevelt:
Bullshit, you stupid fuck. If no one criticises, either:dissent , no democracy can truly be so.
Ed: great quote indeed. I would break out with V for Vendetta, but it isn't quite applicable here (yet).
Julian: I am in awe of your quote mining capability. I wish I could come up with something truly applicable here, but my mind blanks. My hat's off to you.
THE LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY IS AN INSULT TO THE FAMILIES OF 9/11 VICTIMS.
I was going to enter a quote myself, from Mr. Orwell; "George Orwell:
"An Inconveient Truth", from my very limited knowlege of seeing the trailer, is a movie about ecology.
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I was going to make a snarky comment about 9-11 not being mentioned in the wholly babble, either. But then I realized that, given the opportunity, the fundies could find it in their magic book, somewhere. A person who is fanatic enough and sufficiently blind by "faith" can pull anything out of his ass ... uh, I mean Holy Scripture ... oh, wait, right the first time.
<<< It is unpatriotic to criticise the government in times of war. >>>
baloney_muncher may be just a troll, but I have heard this sentiment (or very similar ones) from many people, and it never fails to make me ill. Nor does it ever fail to push me that little bit closer to being a misanthrope.
Treating this seriously, 9/11 has become the ultimate Argument Ender for the Republican Party, much as "Because I said so," is the ultimate weapon of a parent.
Yeah, and you know, the other day, I was watching the Hulk movie, and it didn't mention 9/11 ONCE! What a blatant display of God-hating, flag-burning treason!
Oh, wait...
As for the rest- dissent is the highest form of patriotism, bitch. Patriotism is loving your country enough to want to change it and do what's best for it, not shutting up as some chimp with a superiority complex and his finger on the button flushes this country down the toilet.
Which shows more love for your country- exploiting a tragedy to shut up opponents, or working to uphold its laws, the Constitution and to make this country better?
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I'm sorry, what?
"It sickens me that Gore doesn't even care to mention 9/11 in the film, as if it didn't even happen."
Maybe because 9/11 had absolutely NOTHING to do with the movie?
I think he's confusing "Fahrenheit 911" with "An Inconvenient Truth".
Regardless, this fool is still hopelessly inane.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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