...But to get back to the rest of your post I would like to ask if you have any proof, facts or figures that atheists love their mothers or their country I would love to see it. And you should know that unlike Christians, who are taught to love and respect their parents (read the 10 commandments), atheist are not required to do so and often don’t because “hey, since nothings’ going happen to me after I die why should I care”, that’s just how they think.
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I have a better relationship with my parents than most religious folks I know. My disbelief in the afterlife has not one damned thing to do with it.
Oh, and the 10 Commandments don't say anything about loving one's country. I love the U.S.A., but I don't trust our current government any further than I could throw them.
...But to get back to the rest of your post I would like to ask if you have any proof, facts or figures that atheists love their mothers or their country I would love to see it. Why? You swallowed the propaganda/hate machine's statement that we're without love without evidence, did you not?
Do you have any proof, facts or figures that atheist don't love their mothers or contry. I love my mother very much, my father to. I love my country, but i FEAR my government. You are pretty scary yourself.
Do you have any proof, facts or figures that atheist don't love their mothers or contry. I love my mother very much, my father to. I love my country, but i FEAR my government. You are pretty scary yourself.
Wait, are you try to say that the only reason you love your parents is because you're required to because it's in the bible?
Oh my, I'm glad I don't believe in that rubbish...
So, Alien Syndrome, the only reason you show love to someone is because you fear eternal torment?
If that's true, then you are a selfish, emotionally shallow person.
Believe it or not, AS, the people to whom you refer so cavalierly as "atheists" are freestanding moral people. The overwhelming majority, anyway.
We don't need Groupthink. You probably can't conceive of such a notion, as my bet is that you had the Slave Manual beaten into your brain since early childhood.
We are sapient; we respect the tenets of human justice.
Love, btw, is much better without some shithole commandment anyway. Just doing what comes naturally.
I love my mother, so do my sisters, and none of us had to be taught to. We were however taught right from wrong, by our parents, not a book that condones rape and murder.
I think it's a little strange to live your life right so you'll have a better afterlife, I live my life right becasue it's all we have, there's nothing afterwards.
Orrr... people could actually just love each other, and be nice to everyone (even people they don't know *shocked gasp*). If a god exists, and there is an afterlife, don't you think They would prefer that over neverending holier-than-thou attitudes?
The capacity to love is an innate human quality. It's only natural to feel a strong emotional bond with someone who gave birth to you, raised you well at their own expense, and supported you through the difficulties of growing up. We wouldn't survive if we didn't love each other - at this point, it's actually so hardwired we need it for our health.
I had to double check that this wasn't from CARM.
This is the kind of bullshit that I hated there the most. This fucked up idea that an atheist merely goes through the motions of caring and loving their wife, parents, children, pets etc.
How sick is that? Demoted to subhuman because I don't believe in talking asses? And I'M without morals or able to recognize good and bad?
Also am I the only one who thinks the reasoning of "there is no afterlife, so what I do in this life doesn't matter at all" kind of strange?
No, Deus, you're not the only one at all. The whole, "Life is pointless if there's nothing after it!" business has me completely baffled. I tried arguing with a theist about it once, but we just talked across each other - our mindsets were so different it was as if we weren't even speaking the same language.
"And you should know that unlike Christians, who are taught to love and respect their parents (read the 10 commandments), atheist are not required to do so"
You're quite right - we don't need to be taught it. It comes naturally to us. I'm so, so sorry that you lack that basic human capacity. It must be awful to be you.
I'm one, and I do.
That was easy.
Fundie: "I don't randomly assault people - well, unless they're pro-life or gay or something - because the Bible says I'll go to hell, and that scares me."
Non-Fundie: "I don't randomly assault people - any of them - because I'm not an asshole."
Wow, I love the "love thy neighbour, or burn for eternity" concept that the "loving" religion of christianity preaches.
Oddly enough, I seem to be quite capable of loving and respecting my parents, and my country, without any threats whatsoever.
And yet this retard probably thinks the actions of Abraham going through the motions of sacrificing his only son to God were honorable.
I've read the 10 Commandments -- all three of the versions set forth in your inerrant holy book -- and you're badly misquoting them. Also, I'd like your take on this:
Luke 14:26: If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Hey, here's an idea. For one month let's identify all the serial killers, garden variety murderers, muggers, pederasts, wife beaters, thieves, bunco artists and white collar criminals. It would be interesting to see how many are Christian, how many atheist.
does it ever occur to fundementalists that they've been using the same arguements since the 11th century?
and that humanists have been fed up with and discounting them (however subtly) since the 14th century?
they just don't seem to understand...
I'm an atheist, and I love my mother! So much for that. I don't love my country, but that's because there are so many people like you in it. coherently. Second, my mental grammar is better than that pile of wordsludge. Third, I don't think non sequiturs. Fail.
I love my parents but why should I (or anyone else for that matter) love my country? It's just a lump of rock that I happened to be born on. It didn't do anything for me that any other country wouldn't have done and so why should I do anything for it? My parents brought me up with love, and so they deserve to be loved back. But if more people realised that their country is just an accident of history then maybe we wouldn't all be killing each other for a mountain range, or a river or some other nonsense.
Do you have any proofs, facts or figures that Christians don't shoot, rape or steal?, that they don't harrass and discriminate saying that God says so?. What type of catch 22 are you using?
Proof that atheists love their country:
See the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers (MAAF). These are service men and women who fight and die for their country. They are atheists and freethinkers, non-theistic members of society who love their countries enough to give their lives for it.
Proof that atheists love their mothers:
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/66/l_34b07f58f5cf4c388a63126098be30bd.jpg
That's me, an atheist (and really fat, okay? I've lost it since then) and my momma, whom I absolutely adore.
So suck on that.
Excuse me but didn't Jesus say that he came to set children against their parents? Didn't Jesus say that whoever did not put him before their parents could not be his disciple? Oh wait, those quotes are from the gospels, the part of the bible that your lot doesn't bother to read.
Confused?
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