(To somewhat paraphrase MATTHEW, from April 6th, 2008 at 7:01pm)
Dear Self (P.A.),
I think it useless to argue with GENO about evolution being fact. It is amazing that evolutionists accept that all dogs came a common ancestor, with incredible built-in diversity, yet do not call this evidence for divine creation.
They use ambiguous thinking, and carefully ignore any term of faith/belief/religion.
Evolution literalists either do not want to know the facts, do not want to understand the facts or they want to ignore the facts.
A wise man changes his mind, a fool never.
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I think it useless to argue with creationists about evolution being an extremely well supported theory based on solid evidence. It is amazing that creationists accept that all dogs came God, even though fossils and genetic evidence exist, yet do not call this evidence for evolution.
They use batshit insane thinking, and carefully ignore any evidence/scientific findings/logic.
Fixed
A wise man changes his mind as new evidence arises, a fool never strays from narrow minded blind faith in some ancient stories.
I think it useless to argue with "a fundamentalist" about evolution being fact. It is amazing that "creationists can't" accept that all dogs came a common ancestor, with incredible built-in diversity, yet do not call this evidence for "evolution."
They use ambiguous thinking, and carefully ignore any term of "reason/rationality/critical thinking."
"Creation" literalists either do not want to know the facts, do not want to understand the facts or they want to ignore the facts.
A wise man changes his mind, a fool never. (this actually makes sense)
There, fixed.
Damn, jc beat me to it.
A wise man changes his mind, a fool never.
A wise man examines the evidence, a fool never.
A wise man embraces reality, a fool never.
"It is amazing that evolutionists accept that all dogs came a common ancestor, with incredible built-in diversity, yet do not call this evidence for divine creation. "
It is amazing that someone can accept that evolution happened, then call this evidence for creation, all in the same sentence.
What evidence would make you change your mind about creation?
*crickets chirping*
Thats what I thought, fool.
So, wait ... all dogs descending from a common ancestor is evidence AGAINST evolution now?
Why don't you just admit that you have no idea as to what evolution actually is?
It is amazing that evolutionists accept that all dogs came a common ancestor, with incredible built-in diversity, yet do not call this evidence for divine creation.
Dogs have genes for color vision, but they've been damaged here and there by mutations. Why would a divine creator give dogs non-functioning parts? That's like putting a defective ignition system in a diesel engine or putting an extra room in a house and sealing it shut so it can't be used. Evolution explains it easily. The ancestors of dogs had color vision, but dogs didn't need it (they hunt in low light at dawn and dusk, when color vision doesn't work), so when the genes were damaged, it had no effect on the dogs' survival.
Mmmm... sure you're not describing yourself? Wait... lemme fix this for you.
<b>I think it useless to argue with GENO about evolution being fact. It is perfectly acceptable that evolutionists accept that all dogs came a common ancestor.
Creationists use ambiguous thinking, witlessly adhering to faith/belief/religion.
Creation literalists either do not want to know the facts, do not want to understand the facts or they want to ignore the facts.
A wise man changes his mind, a fool never.</b>
There! Wouldn't want to make others think you're one of those whiny 'persecuted' fundie-tards.
Wait--so it was God Himself who created Shih Tzus, Pugs, Dachsunds, and Great Danes?
So Cocker Spaniels and Irish Setters came two-by-two into the Ark? How about Rhode Island Red chickens, Persian cats, and Quarter Horses?
I see on the site that the original post was already a "fixed" version of GENO's original post. GENO said:
"I think it useless to argue with about Paul Abramson about evolution being fact. It is amazing that creationists accept that all dogs came a common ancestor, yet do not call this evolution.
They use the ambiguous term of faith/belief/religion.
Bible literalists either do not want to know the facts, do not want to understand the facts or they want to ignore the facts.
A wise man changes his mind, a fool never."
Point 1. It is useless to argue about evolution being fact because the people who do make that argument never have evidence to back it up!
Point 2. Dogs did not come with "built-in diversity"...the diversity came about after years of being bred in different environments! In fact, we know this because dogs did not exist until man started domesticating wolves! They weren't dogs since the dawn of existence, they became dogs due to our interference, and grew into various breeds from there.
Point 3. We ignore terms of faith, belief, and religion in regards to evolution because evolution is science, and faith, belief, and religion are NOT!
Point 4. I know that this was just your attempt to mirror back statements made by this GENO character, but the ignoring the facts part just applies to you far more effectively than it does to "evolution literalists".
Point 5. A wise man is willing to change his mind, but rarely has to. A fool is never willing to change his mind, period. Guess who is willing to change his mind about evolution is evidence pops up against it? Guess who is unwilling to change his mind about the verity of his religion under any circumstances? I think you know...
@John: It's obviously a punishment because the dogs are sinners!
(Seriously, I often get answers like this and a bunch of "original sin" crap whenever I bring up "design imperfections" in living creatures to creationists).
The irony!!!, who says that science changes its mind all the time whereas the Bible(carefully cherry picked, of course)doesn't?. Not scientists, of course. And second, if Evolution is a scientific theory, why do they have to pay attention to faith, belief or religion?
"A wise man changes his mind, a fool never."
Which is why the "Bible" hasn't changed in how many years?
How many times has science revises flawed theories?
Man, I don't understand how people can live with this kind of cognitive dissonance
"A wise man changes his mind, a fool never."
"Science changes with every generation and with new discoveries, and God doesn't,"
BATTLE OF THE FUNDY LOGICKZ
"A wise man changes his mind, a fool never."
Our theory changes to accomodate evidence from objective reality. Our rationale and logic are consistent.
Your presuppositions haven't changed a lick since the words were written on goatskin scrolls myriad centuries ago. Yet you change your "logic" in a vain attempt to rationalize your beliefs.
I'll let everyone else figure out which one represents true wisdom.
All dogs did come from a common ancestor, fuck even Answers in Genesis admits there was one original dog breed. In fact most dog breeds are less than 200 years old.
A wise man changes his mind, a fool never.
"A wise man changes his mind, a fool never."
"How can evolution be looked upon as truth when it is constantly changing?"
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
continued diversity. (built-in diversity? ok, I'll let that go,as what was there contributed to what followed. Not designed.)is not only what evolution has predicted, but what all studies show.
Facts are the scientests friend, and the creationists nightmare.
Fools change their mind pretty regularly. And have to be constantly reminded that: that stupid thing you heard: You said it.
Dear Self (P.A.),
I think it useless to argue with PAUL about the bible being fact. It is amazing that bible literalists accept that all dogs came a divine creator, with incredible built-in diversity, yet do not call this evidence for evolution.
They use ignorant thinking, and carefully ignore any term of science/hypothesis/theory.
Bible literalists either do not want to know the facts, do not want to understand the facts or they want to ignore the facts.
A wise man changes his mind, a fool never.
*Fixed*
"A wise man changes his mind, a fool never."
Congratulations! This sentence can be exchanged for a lifetime supply of mirror polish.
"A wise man changes his mind, a fool never. We are fools at CSE who do not want to know the facts(our leader is a scam artist, liar, tax cheat, and false prophet), do not want to understand the facts(tax-cheats are thieves who rob from every good American tax-payer, lying in court violates the 9th commandment, trailer park diplomas are frauds) or ignore the facts(our so-called religious leader committed blasphemy by lying under oath after swearing to tell the "whole truth, so help me, GOD," on the BIBLE)." FIXED
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