How to be an Atheist:
1) Refute everything in the Bible because men wrote it.
2) Believe and quote other writings of men to prove that the Bible is wrong.
3) Completely ignore the inconsistency between steps 1 & 2."
[There are twenty more steps on the original page, you have been warned]
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It's not just it's written by men. It's that it's written by men with no verifiable credentials and has none of the supporting evidence that would make up for the lack of said credentials.
The men referred to in "Step 2" generally don't have that problem.
1 Refute everything in the Bible that has been proven historically or scientifically wrong.
2 Apply Occam's Razor rinse, lather, repeat.
How to be a fundie:
1) Believe everything in the Bible regardless of scientific evidence, logic, and common sense.
2) Openly refute any scientific findings as evil, wrong, of the devil, etc.
3) Completely ignore the lack of distance between your head and your ass.
Actually, you missed the whole point. Most atheists don't give the bible enough credit to even care about proving it wrong. It is irrelevant. Atheists do not put enough importance on your book to waste time or energy proving it wrong to anyone.
They simply ignore it and live their lives.
Many have read it, in order to understand other perspectives - something educated people generally do. I read your bible. But, I also read a whole bunch of Harlequin Romance novels in my teen years. Neither has any relevance in my life just because I read them.
Look, it's Ray Comfort's blog! Look's useless comment!
Why does the latter always occur with the former?
Being an atheist is apparently a lot more complicated than I thought.
What is it with people who want Christianity to be the *easier* choice? Where exactly in the Bible does it say that it's supposed to be easy? How exactly would it be faith if it were the only possible choice?
1) Strawman
2) Strawman based on 1
3) Strawman based on 1 and 2
Your score is 3/3, or 100% Strawman! You WIN!
Your prizes include: Shame *and* disgrace, A box of shut the hell up, and, last but certainly not least, An authentic logical beatdown by your fans here on FSTDT. Enjoy!!!
How to be a fundamentalist
1. Believe that everything in the bible is true
2. Why? Because it was written by god
3. How do you know this? Because the bible says so
4. Neglect all scientific education that contradicts the bible
5. Be proud to go to heaven instead of going to hell like all those educated people that don´t believe in the liuteral truth of the bible
6. a) If you´re lucky you grow extremly rich by telling other uneducated people why the scientists are wrong (in contrast to the bible) and why god will send them to hell
6. b) If you´re not so lucky you will spend your time at a low paying job (due to lack of education) and keep your kids from getting better jobs by homeschooling them and keeping them from getting into contact with science that contradicts the bible therefore keeping them undereducated.
7. Your kids will either repeat steps 1-6, or will have more luck and become atheists or more moderate christians (by getting into contact with friends who aren´t fundamentalists)
"11) Use words like “strawman,” ...."
Well, gosh, I can't imagine why anyone would.
18) Only pick on Christians you don’t want to get killed in a Jihad. However, be sure to say that there is no difference between Radical Muslims and Fundamentalist Christians.
Go to YouTube and look up patcondell, capnoawesome, desertphile, and kurtilein3. There are those and plenty of others who "pick on" Scientologists and Muslims.
21) Make the claim that you only have one life and don’t want to waste it on religion.
Damn right, skippy.
22) If your conscience begins to bother you because of moral guilt you can numb it with drugs, alcohol, sex, or pride. You can give up the first three but never give up your pride.
I got no guilt, no drugs, occasional beer, I ain't gettin' none, and pride is a virtue.
I refute the Bible because it's self-contradictory and the miracles listed therein are unrepeatable and largely nonscientific. Plus the stories of Jesus weren't even written down and recorded until after his death, and the disciple's too iirc.
Writings of men that are backed by real-world evidence rather than emotional appeals and argument ad populum.
I am fairly consistent.
im not coming here any more, i should be looking at something funny, this isnt funny, its just depressing.
i meet enough of these dumbasses in real life, thanks.
Yeah, those stupid atheists. Just because a book that claims to have been written by an all knowing perfect supernatural being turns out to actually have been written by a group of ancient goat herders who weren't even wise for their time, those stupid atheists somehow think that invalidates the entire book.
I also agree that it's stupid to use one set of writings of men to disprove another. I mean Stephen Hawking's classic, 'A brief history of time' may indirectly argue against the case I make in my own book, 'Liberals created time in order to turn our children gay so let's kill time and gay people.' but we're both men so clearly my book is just as good as his, if not a little better.
Well, in a sense he is right: you can't deny the writings of one person, and completely embrace the others without critical analysis, without being a hypocrite.
That being said, however, critical analysis has ruled in favor of evolution.
So his analysis of atheism FAILS .
@antichrist
Step one is hilarious.
Step two seems unnecessary.
@burningstake
His 'steps' completely ignores that the bible was written by ancient men who had little or no education, and the books people normally quote from are educated people who are very knowledgeable in their fields and have access to modern science. The only 'sense' in which he is right is the shallow strawman which he has presented.
How to be a moron :
1) Learn nothing about the world around you except how to bullshit your parents and teachers, until you're all grown up and still just full of shit
2) Believe you are smarter than everyone else
3) Completely ignore the inconsistency between steps 1 & 2
* It also helps to have a phony name, like ex-atheist, or ex-satanist, or ex-biochemist
Wrong, wrong, wrong! Here's how it really works.
1) Acknowledge that everything written was written by people
2) Evaluate the validity of said writings in light of what they claim it to be (i.e. fiction or non-fiction)
3) Completely ignore people who insist that a particular writing is valid non-fiction when it contains gross inconsistencies, blatant errors, massive assumptions and appalling defenses for genocide and other human evils
Thank you for playing
The issue to not that "it was written by humans, so it's wrong", it's that it was written by humans, so its claims to being the word of God are highly suspect. The other writings don't have this problem because they never claim to be divinely inspired.
The bible was written by ignorant goat herders who couldn't even count the legs on an insect. More modern writers have the benefit of understanding countless things that the bible's authors knew nothing about.
Would you look up a telephone number in a phone book from 1945? No? Well, it was also compiled by humans, so why not? Good luck getting through, however.
“How to be an Atheist:”
Forty quatloos that we’re going into strawman territory.
“1) Refute everything in the Bible because men wrote it.”
What do you mean? Of course men wrote it. Nothing is presented as being Jesus’ handiwork and no one can find the Stone Tablets. Do you mean that men made everything up? That’s not a refutation, that’s just a conclusion one comes to after sharpening Occam’s Razor.
But i’d say detals like saying there’s a place you can stand and see all the nations of the world, which only works on a flat Earth, does indicate that the authors did not have access to an omniscient source.
“2) Believe and quote other writings of men to prove that the Bible is wrong.”
Um, i don’t have access to writings from cows. Who else would i quote to show that, say, the sky is not a solid shell as the Bible describes? Or to show that the Earth is not flat?
What’s wrong with using human knowledge to show that the Bible’s authors were limited to human knowledge, and not even the most advanced knowledge of their time?
“3) Completely ignore the inconsistency between steps 1 & 2."
I don’t see an inconsistency, there.
You think that accepting, say, peer reviewed science that places the Earth’s age at 4.5 billion years should be weight the same as anonymous-sourced listings of geneologies that seem to add up to a 6000 year old Earth?
THAT would be inconsistent.
Confused?
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