no-more-nice-guy & Skrillerman #sexist reddit.com

To all the normal people attacking incels, from a non incel

I've met some incels in real life and they are bitter, they can lash out at society big time. My incel neighbour had a face so ugly he was hard to look at. He used to litter food on the path i used to get to my flat. He was a alright guy once you got to know him, just no amount of self improvement could help him he was a walking contraceptive. He never really left the house. One time I was in a bad mood and I said within earshot of him that he is a creep, why would he leaving rotting food on the path.
He thought this was his time to be a asshole and I just snapped at him, told him I don't like his bullshit. Never a problem again, I even organised him to take my flat after I left.
I'm not popular with girls myself, but I'm interested in fitness so I want the same in a partner (at least someone who doesn't treat their body like a tip to be filled with junk food). I've worked out, become a martial arts teacher (single mums only seem to go for that in my case at least... Dont think I have to explain why) I have spent thousands on clothes, I've worked on my social skills. I have had a few gfs but was cheated on regularly.
Although I'm definitely not a incel and although I have red hair & not overly ugly, my point is this: you really can't imagine what life is like when you are seriously ugly, like seriously bad, I'm no brad Pitt but these guys got a real rough deal, people can treat you like garbage for it.
All this talk of just do A,B,C like a normal person would wont work for some of these guys. You are better off recommending they improve their lives for their own sake, instead of wasting your time telling them what works for you. Some guys have it easy in that regard and some have it harder.
You cannot know what you cannot know, some of these guys are on a whole other level of ugly, its sad but giving advice that gets you laid won't help them. Their bitterness can be super cringy yes but they can't just change a few personality traites to fix it.
These guys are just angry they didn't get a chance at a normal love life, stop bullying them for whatever reason and leave them be. So many people judge incels without knowing what its like.
To any incels I say, work on your own life, buy a sex doll and do what makes you happy. Take care of your health and fitness for you, and only you. Hold onto people who see beyond your looks, not many people on the planet are worth a damn. So hang on to the ones who are

(Skrillerman)

True.
That's what people don't get.
I am extremely average as well . Normal sized with 5'10 , normal face , fitting clothes , normal hair and a fitting beard .
And I still had NEVER EVER any female walking towards me and asking for my number and shit . It doesn't happen .
I had ALWAYS TO initiate the conversation. That's where the difference is . Because they are ALWAYS friendly to me . That's where the shit with "personality matters" actually comes into play .
They smile , are super friendly but will lose interest when you are not her type or boring af .
That's why it is so hypocritical . When an ugly man does it she won't even smile or instantly stop the conversation by giving a lazy excuse. I've seen it alot .
People treat me like a normal human being . Some women don't find me attractive but some do .
But they act totally different towards ugly people . It's disgusting.
I don't share the pure hatred towards women because I've met alot of friendly and extremely warm ones BUT I definitely can understand where the hate is coming from . I would be miserable, sad and full of hatred as well if people would bully me , mock me , ignore me and not even one female showed any interest.
People who never been in their shoes shouldn't talk and give their shitty opinions

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