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fsdt is a communist cesspoll of far left liberals and other satanic worshipping people who enjoy nothing more than hurting the otherwise good image of Religious people who wish nothing more than to speak the truth. You can address my points here, but submiting my ideas to that fascist website does nothing more than raise a white flag of "I surrender, because I refuse to address the content of what you said". Please, take off your fantasy helmet for just a few moments and look over what I have said.

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old comment by Axver

'fsdt is a communist cesspoll of far left liberals'
Communist? I'm a social democrat, thank you very much. And odds are that your beliefs on the government and economy are more liberal than mine. Go learn something about the definition of 'liberal', PLEASE. 'and other satanic worshipping people' Firstly, communists and those on the far left do not necessarily worship Satan. In fact, the vast majority don't. Stop accusing all the people who adhere to ideologies you don't like of worshipping Satan. Secondly, I'm a Christian. I didn't know we worshipped Satan. Oh, wait, I'm probably too unorthodox and "liberal" for you. Not my fault that I actually put effort into trying to understand the Bible in its proper context while you just misinterpret everything and enjoy being a hatemonger. 'who enjoy nothing more than hurting the otherwise good image of Religious people who wish nothing more than to speak the truth.' I do not wish to hurt the image of good religious people who wish nothing more than to speak the truth. You are not one of those people. You, like the rest of your fundie ilk, are a delusional, idiotic, asinine fuckwit whose worthless comments deserve to be picked apart, debunked, and then flushed down the toilet. 'You can address my points here' I'd rather do it here. The other posters here actually have brains. I'm happier staying well away from the CARM.org forums. 'that fascist website' You don't know what 'fascist' means, do you? Because this website is most certainly not fascist and labelling it as such just proves how monumentally foolish and ignorant you are. Please, buy a dictionary and use it. To summarise: you are an idiot. I'm sure the good people of Trinidad and Tobago aren't too happy you're using their country's name to represent yourself either.

old comment by Yahweh

@fundie

fsdt is a communist cesspoll of far left liberals

20 bucks says this guy has no fucking clue what communism is, what its politics are, or why no single person on this board is a communist. @fundie

and other satanic worshipping people who enjoy nothing more than hurting the otherwise good image of Religious people who wish nothing more than to speak the truth

Read the quote on this site. See the acres and acres of racist, bigoted, proudly ignorant, intellectually sterile and appalling quotes on this site, spoken by the very people who claim to be witnessing for your religion. This site just archives those quotes and allows people to mock the authors, but fundamentally, the people quoted on this site destroy their own image with the things they say.

but submiting my ideas to that fascist website

Awesome, you used the labeled the site as communist and fascist at the same time, and you don't know what either of those words are. Whats more, you don't know what this site is all about, how critical it is of the government, how much it promotes equal rights for everyone.

old comment by Brain_In_A_Jar

"otherwise good image of Religious people"
Howler of the Month? Of course it's a good image when you dismiss all criticism! As for being a cesspool of atheist satanic liberal fascist communists, your're wrong on almost all counts. Not all of us are atheists, some are agnostic and quite a few are theists (just not the fundie variety). None of us has, to my knowledge, expressed any interest in following satan, assuming he even exists. Some of us may be liberals, but since this is an international forum and the word has different meanings across the globe, this one's kind of hard to nail down. Since this website is a darn good example of free speech and non-censorship, we're about as far away from fascism as you can get. Communist? I've seen precious little waving of red flags here, although personally I suspect Marx was onto something or other.

old comment by Amos

Actually, I'm a centrist with a slight libertarian slant. (You can see where I fit on the IIDB political compass chart* where I'm placed slightly right-center libertarian. My left/right, like most people's, is a little variable. I often go equally to the left of the y-axis.) And the only communist I've ever known in person is a good friend of mine who is Christian. I don't think that's so surprising, given that the ethics and model for society of the two beliefs can be easily read to be nearly identical.
Taking a look at that chart might be a good idea. You can see communists on the top left and fascists on the top right. Other charts of the same sample, such as this one*, color the points according to religious belief. You can see that Christianity, to the almost complete exclusion of atheism, has members in the authoritarian top half of the chart. True that this isn't a large or random sample of Christians, but it is a good sample of non-believers. We aren't communists or fascists. Anyway, because said friend is also rational and educated (as are many other Christians I know well), I know that FSTDT doesn't reflect the nature of all believers. But FSTDT was never supposed to, which why it's "fundies say" and not "believers say." And it has already been said, but I think the point deserves to be repeated: If you think your being quoted here smears Christianity, most likely the problem is with you. You are being a poor example. Hell, to make a much simpler point: You called for Christification camps! If anyone is a fascist, it'd be you. *People's locations on these charts were calculated by http://www.politicalcompass.org.

old comment by Papabear

Alright, here we go.
"fsdt is a communist" No, I am not a communist, nor can I remember anyone on fstdt claiming to be a communist. "cesspoll" No, we are not a pool of sewage, though we do like to point out the shit in posts like yours. "of far left liberals" I don't know about most of the others here, but I'll proudly admit to being significantly left of center. "and other satanic worshipping people" I AM sure that none of us worships Satan. I don't worship your "God" because I know him to be imaginary,so too with Satan and Jesus. "who enjoy nothing more than hurting the otherwise good image of Religious people who wish nothing more than to speak the truth." We don't hurt the image of your religion, we point out when YOU hurt the image of your religion. "You can address my points here," Thanks, I was waiting for your permission. "but submiting my ideas to that fascist" Now, now, don't us words for which you don't know the definitions. There is nothing Fascist about this website. "website does nothing more than raise a white flag of "I surrender," We are not surrendering anything, we are pointing out the silliness of your religious beliefs and, often, your hypocracy and lack of compassion. "because I refuse to address the content of what you said"." Uh, we address the content of posts quite thoroughly here. Are you sure you're talking about fstdt? "Please, take off your fantasy helmet for just a few moments and look over what I have said." I left my fantasy helmet at church when I left. As an atheist, I do not require a fantasy to guide my life. Too bad about you, though.

old comment by Maronan

FSTDT is not communist. I think communism is a nice idea in theory, but unworkable on any scale larger than a family or tribal group. I'm certainly far left of the center, but "far left liberal" is somewhat relative. It's also not a bad thing. I'm an atheist, which means I don't worship Satan; I don't believe he exists. I make no effort to tarnish your image; you've tarnished it quite enough on your own. Any additional tarnishing I could do would be superfluous. You certainly do not speak the truth. We do address your points, and it doesn't matter whether we do it on FSTDT or CARM. In fact, CARM would probably ban us if we addressed your posts there. FSTDT is not fascist; in fact, you just said it was communist, and the two are mutually exclusive. You clearly don't know what either word means. Addressing your posts here not there doesn't mean we surrender; what we say matters, not where we say it. You are the last person who can accuse others of wearing fantasy helmets. Thank you.
Distind: Damn! I liked being a satanic vulture. Of course, Gonzo67 promoted us to cupcakes, and I guess communists would constitute another promotion. They like us! They really like us! Crosis and David: Maybe I'm missing something, but I see no indication that Andromeda is a fundie. It's certainly not a contradiction to be a Christian and not religious; generally "not religious" means not putting a lot of devotion into religion. A person who considers him/herself Christian, celebrates Christmas, Easter, and the other modified pagan holidays, and who goes to church every now and then but who doesn't go to church regularly and doesn't think much about God or what Christianity commands would be a Christian, but not religious. Before I considered myself an atheist outright, I called myself a Jew, but not a religious one. I don't know about you, but I can't see any indication that the third line refers to the rapture/return of Jesus.

old comment by Tired Christian

Thanks for not helping, moron.

I would've just complained that the people here just complain about a person's idiotic beliefs, rather than looking for logic errors in your arguments.

I won't point out your belief and any flaws present, but I will point out that:
1. generalizations make you look stupid.
2. "speak the truth". Never state your opinion as fact.
3. You have a point about the white flag bit...if that's all they did, but really they were just providing ypour comment to a wider audience.
4. I 'took of my fantasy helmet' and looked at what you wrote, and I can say that you are really going at this the wrong way. Try understand the others views before you complain.

old comment by VioletBeauregarde

@ Axver: Amen, brother/sister! You tell those judgemental idiots. For bonus points, refer them to Matthew 7:1-2...;). You and I are of a similar mind. I'm also a Christian who's not a Fundie. You are actually a better Christian than them, because Christian means "Christ-like". Look at what Jesus taught: love, peace, tolerance, respect for your fellow human being, generosity, helpfulness, charity, etc. Fundies (for the most part) have distorted Christianity into a hideous and unrecognizable caricature of what it really is! That said, God bless you and everyone else on here!
@ Darwin: You're on >:)! *I jump in* Come on in, it's not that bad in here...

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