The other day an atheist told me that he doesn't believe in God just like I don't believe in Zeus.
Zeus was a dude who lived on a mountain and threw lightning bolts at people. That is ridiculous. The Greeks must have been drinking way too much wine when they came up with that. The bible actually makes sense. There is evidence to back it up.
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Hey, Mount Olympus actually exists, unlike this 'heaven' thing your god lives in. Show me on a map where this 'heaven' is.
Don't read you own book, do you?
Zeus throwing thunderbolts from the top of Mt. Olympus is no more ridiculous than an invisible guy making a human out of dirt or all the animals in the world fit on a single boat and over the course of 40 days didn't eat each other or crap so much they sank the boat. Wonder what those bronze age goat herders were drinking when they came up with that!
The bible makes no more sense than the Gita, which names Brahma as the Creator and is backed up with no less evidence than your book.
These people keep going on about all this "evidence" that they have for god's existence, but never seem to be able to show any of it. It's like the kid in school: "Sorry teacher, I did do my homework, but I can't show it to you because the dog ate some of it and then the aliens came down and stole what was left".
"Your god was nailed to a tree, my god carries a hammer." [I know that's Thor, but I still love the quote.]
And it's ridiculous, why?. God, as described in the OT, is a totally contradictory character, that ressembles more one of those Sumerian kings. Do you realise that you're using the old argument "my god has a bigger dick than yours"?
Also, the IPU pwnzors all gods, including those that carry hammers, or throw bolts of electricity around.
The bible actually makes sense. There is evidence to back it up.
Without quoting other books in the bible, you can't back this statement up.
Jesus was a dude who turned water into wine and even walked on water. That is ridiculous. The Christians must have been drinking way too much wine when they came up with that.
M-hm. I think the conversation might've gone something like "No more wine?"great ! But the authorities and wine-dealers wouldn't like that too much, harr harr!"
"These people keep going on about all this "evidence" that they have for god's existence, but never seem to be able to show any of it. It's like the kid in school: "Sorry teacher, I did do my homework, but I can't show it to you because the dog ate some of it and then the aliens came down and stole what was left"."
You forgot the last part: "But you can see the evidence of my homework everywhere around you. The universe is proof of my homework."
"Zeus was a dude who lived on a mountain and threw lightning bolts at people. That is ridiculous. The Greeks must have been drinking way too much wine when they came up with that."
Yes. An invisible man who lives in the clouds, created everything without actually leaving any evidence that he did so, pronounced everything "good" and a short while later proceeded to drown every living fucking thing on the planet save an old drunk and his kids because the world had gone all to hell (which he should have seen coming, being omniscient and all) is much more reasonable than Zeus.
The bible actually makes sense. There is evidence to back it up.
Back to the original argument then. A claim is not evidence for itself, sorry.
"Zeus was a dude who lived on a mountain and threw lightning bolts at people. That is ridiculous"
"Who can understand how he spreads out the clouds, how he thunders from his pavillion? See how he scatters lightning about him , bathing the depths of the sea. This is the way he governs the nations and provides food in abundance. He fills his hands with lightning and commands it to strike it's mark. His thunder announces the coming storm; even the cattle make known it's approach."
Job 36:29-33
I believe the relevant turn of phrase to be used at this juncture is "pwned".
I felt bad while reading in the thread, for which this quote was OP. MySpace contains utterly depressing idiocy.
I agree. Makes me want to start a MySpace account, actually - it'd allow me to get into that thread and kill them.
Mark: I want to believe he's Poe, I mean...
"How can the three DIFFERENT religions have the same God? That is just silly. The Christian God is the one true God. We know this because he sent his only son to die for our sins.
Jews and Muslims pray to a false god. Just like pagans and others do.
If we had the same God, they would be Christians."
...seriously, people this dumb shouldn't be allowed to roam free. And he most likely is. But there still seems to be something real about him.
Zeus and I go barhopping every once an' a while. Once he hooked up with this chick and then she was claimin' her son was Zeus' son and then Zeus' wife was all pissed and turn's out this Eracles dude had Zeus' strength. Oh boy, what a mess, it was great.
Since that day Zeus swore to never fuck with mortals, PERIOD !
Ah, fair enough, he's Poe:
Stop trying to rewrite the holy book!!!"
The bible makes sense? So it makes perfect sense that an invisible guy in the clouds made a guy out of mud and a girl out of the guy's rib? It makes sense that a burning bush told some guy to free slaves from Egypt? It makes sense that a guy fed hundreds of people with a fish and a loaf of bread, or that he walked on water, or that he turned water into wine? I would like to see this evidence you speak of.
" Zeus was a dude" WTHF, you ignorant barbarian savage. Let me see, Classical civilization verses that of a group of ignorant nomadic superstitious incestuous megalomaniac goat herders.
fundamentalists delenda est
Actually, I find that Greek mythology is more plausible than the Bible. It's easier to imagine a big council of gods with all the chaos that is the world than it is to imagine one god that is either terrible at keeping control of the universe or is just schizophrenic.
And the mythology and beliefs that surrounds Zeus and the rest of the Olympians are a lot less tyrannical than that which surrounds God. As long as you don't murder, rape, or insult anyone divine you were perfectly allowed to do whatever the hell you wanted. :) (Or should I say allowed to do whatever the Hades you wanted...?)
Anyhow, you have convinced me. I'm off to convert into a worshiper of the Olympians! :-D
For the ridiculousness of Yahweh, see:
Carlin, George. "There is No God." You Are All Diseased. New York: Eardrum Records, 1999.
Went to his myspace page and Good Clean Fun is a Poe.
"Zeus was a dude who lived on a mountain and threw lightning bolts at people. That is awesome. The Greeks must have been drinking way too much wine when they didn't believe in him. The bible actually doesn't make any sense. There is no evidence to back it up."
There, I fixed the post for you!
lumax wrote:
"Went to his myspace page and Good Clean Fun is a Poe. VEGAN?!?!!!!
Yeah, you're right, it is ridiculous. I mean, who could ever believe in some dude with a long white beard and robes, living in the sky watching everybody and occasionally sending down his divine wrath in the form of thunderbolts? And he has a son with a mortal woman who saves people from evil? I call bullshit on that!
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