The Christian Family Concept represents the best possible situation for men, women and children. Men get their sexual needs satisfied, women get the security they need to have children, and children get training from both a loving father and mother.
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Socialism destroys families by locking women into welfare that keeps them alive, but never allows them to leave. Socialism allows women to make casual choices about sex instead of the tough choice of what man provides the best security. Feminism deceives women into believing they do not need men for security. Pornography deceives men into thinking they can get good sex from bad women. Abortion is a way for women to go out and sow wild oats and then kill the crop.
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Wrong premises.
Wrong conclusion from premises.
Sorry, clirus, in logic, two wrongs don't make a right.
No, the "Christian Family Concept" and myriads of other such patriarchial social structures coupled with extensive immature agriculture provide the best way of breeding enormous numbers of children to secure resources for a society quickly and overwhelmingly.
I hope this rebuttal either causes your tiny little brain to suffer a meltdown, or maybe motivates you to actually research the pattern of human social structures in agricultural societies.
-my two bits
What a sad, sad worldview. Women are perfectly able to take care of themselves. The idea that women need to be protected is backwards in the extreme. And if a man enters into a marriage just because he wants sex, that's even more fucked up. Society has improved considerably since the time when your storybook was written. Quit trying to drag everything backwards.
Sorry, but women don´t need security. Men do, indeed, need, according to apologist, a maid, for they are unable to breed and keep a home by themselves. POOR THEM.
Socialism does neither of the things you mention. Women do not need men for security, although some might choose one to increase it, and thus feminism is not deceptive for the reasons you cite. Pornography is pictures of people having sex; only a very limited individual would make life decisions based on it. Abortion is a technique that often saves lives.
By the way, the spam filter is getting way too twitchy - can someone please do something about it?
"The Christian Family Concept represents the best possible situation for men, women and children. Men get their sexual needs satisfied, women get the security they need to have children"
I think I should just stop reading at this point, the rest of this post can only make me want to bang my head repeatedly against a hard surface.
"<rest of post>"
Crap! I was right. This is gonna hurt.
Oh, and: why did the spam filter only accept my post once I had snipped out the second quote? How does this spam filter thingie work, anyway?
Oy, vey! I'll bet clirus also thinks that if you put together sufficient quantities of rubber, paper, mercury, sphagnum moss, C-4, and white latex paint (high gloss), it would make a complete and balanced breakfast. The "logic" employed is the same either way.
~David D.G.
FYI Spam Blocker: I've gotten around the spam filter by submitting one word and then putting in the rest of my post on edit. It's always worked for me.
clitoris seems to be happy filing everyone into a neat little category. Problem is, shit ain't like that.
And one can get GREAT sex from bad women. Bad, nasty, dirty beautiful women.
Besides, are these guys right, is marriage developed only for SEX?, how sad. And also, are women, the ones who carry the babies, with such high responsibility defenseless?, sounds not logic. Third, anyway, many poor heterosexual Christian families need social services anyway, because they have not money, so, what´s your point?, and finally, if theoretically men are so rewarded sexually in marriage, why an overwhelming number of pornography are married men?, again, don´t say nonsenses you will not be able to answer.
I don't need a man...period. Yes I'm married, but fortunately my husband understands that I don't NEED him, I want him. It lifts many financial and emotional burdens off of him, we parent equally and damn if he doesn't help around the house too.
The Christian Family Concept represents the best possible situation for men, women and children.
If it's got the word "Christian" in the name, it's probably a bad idea. I've learned this from valuable personal experience.
Men get their sexual needs satisfied...
It's possible to satisfy one's sexual needs without marrying. Steady dating, multiple girlfriends over the course of a year, and a one-night stand will also satisfy your sexual needs. Polygamy works too, provided it's done with the knowledge and consent of all people involved; otherwise, you may wind up with significantly fewer sexual needs in the future. From a physiological standpoint, even masturbation would probably work, at least to some extent.
...women get the security they need to have children...
Yeah, because the gender capable of enduring the pain of childbirth needs protection from the gender with the most sensitive parts of his anatomy hanging out in front.
...and children get training from both a loving father and mother.
This isn't really necessary. One mother, one father; one single mother; one single father; two mothers; two fathers; one mother and one stepfather; one uncle and one aunt; two foster moms; it doesn't matter who cares for a kid as long as they're loving and able to do the job.
Socialism destroys families by locking women into welfare that keeps them alive, but never allows them to leave.
Is "socialism" code for something? That sounds exactly like "moral Christian values" to me.
Socialism allows women to make casual choices about sex...
Now "socialism" is code for something else.
Anyway, what business do you have deciding for women? Their bodies, their choice.
...instead of the tough choice of what man provides the best security.
Is this really what you believe? To you, marriage is a form of extended prostitution; sexual favors for security.
Most of us consider marriage to be a little more meaningful than that.
Feminism deceives women into believing they do not need men for security.
Let's find a woman who is willing to endure some amount of pain, and conduct this experiment:
Step 1: Clirus kicks said woman in her private regions.
Step 2: Said woman kicks Clirus in aforementioned regions.
Step 3: Ask Clirus whether or not she needs his "protection."
Step 4: Once he picks himself up off the floor, ask him again.
We could take it even further, and ask him multiple times to determine how fast he reverts to his predetermined conclusion. We could also try other variations, such as whether he changes his opinion for longer if he's whacked in the balls with a hammer.
Pornography deceives men into thinking they can get good sex from bad women.
Why can't you?
Abortion is a way for women to go out and sow wild oats and then kill the crop.
No, abortion is a way to prevent unwanted pregnancy. It may be used if she was raped, or if the child would have a severe genetic disease. If you oppose abortion, we will be sending you a bill for $1,000,000 for each unwanted child who is born. (I don't know how much it would cost, so my estimate would be off. I figure it costs about $200,000 or so to raise a child to the age of 18, but that's the cost to the parents; if there were no parents, people would have to be paid to care for the kids.)
"Bad women."
Yep, those two little words completely summarize why I believe this poster is a first-class asshat. Because any woman who *gasp* enjoys sex (or worse, has it outside of wedlock) is "bad."
Ugh. Just ugh.
First and foremost, welfare is given to any person who needs it. Whether it´s a couple, a man or a woman. Second, what do you mean by "security"?, being attacked by a bear or what?. The only ones who need security are children and, sorry man, but monoparental families exist since the eve of time.
“The Christian Family Concept represents the best possible situation for men, women and children. Men get their sexual needs satisfied”
I do believe that for me, having my wife and kids as active members of my life is great.
But of all the benefits, my dick getting wet is NOT the very first, it’s not even in the top ten.
You just said that the best thing about being a husband si taht you marry a vagina.
Sweet goddamned misogynistic sexist fuckknuckle, that’s idiotic.
My wife’s demonstrated ability to drive me to the ER at 0300 is far and away a greater benefit than sex.
“ women get the security they need to have children,”
There are 12 year olds having kids, right now, due to the Christain insistance on their ‘Model’ for those children.
That’s not security.
And, what, women don’t want, need, or deserve sex?
Men get sex, women get the man’s heirs, and kids get brought up by to be accessories to the parents’ success.
“and children get training from both a loving father and mother.”
You don’t have to be married, or even related to the kids, to teach them lovingly.
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