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It blows my fucking mind that you think sexual activity is harmful to children somehow.

That's not what /u/Sunfl00 or /u/pilarholt said. OP's story is about an adult taking non-consensual sexual photographs of a child, which is not identical to the term "sexual activity", it's more specific. Sunfloo is talking about the same thing with the phrase "pornographic pics of kids".
You do agree that adults who desire sexual activity with children are fucked up, right?


I am perfectly aware of what the conversation was about. I wasn't commenting on the subject being discussed. I was interjecting sense and reason into the conversation by pointing out the deeply flawed beliefs which allowed the discussion to come into existence in the first place. It would be like an atheist interjecting into a theological argument between two people with the statement "your god does not exist". No, I would not agree that adults who desire to engage in sexual activity with children are fucked up. You are fucked up for supporting the cultural conditioning which causes children to be traumatized by something that is not only harmless, but immensely beneficial. Sex is not wrong and it does not psychologically harm children. Punishment causes distress. There is a causally direct correlation between the degree to which an individual experiences distress for breaking a rule and the degree to which that individual's community punishes those who break that rule. Pedophilia is one of the most punished things on earth. There is no magical time during human development when sexual feelings aren't possible or when they crossover from being distressing to being pleasurable. Fear conditioning through punishment and threat of punishment for breaking a deeply vilified sexual taboo is the reason why children experience trauma from harmless sexual activity engaged in willingly.
I have never heard a single good argument that justifies the criminalization of sexual activity with children.


How about the fact that virtually all sexual activity with children is non-consensual?

Even if it were true that the vast majority of instances were not consensual, that wouldn't justify criminalization of consensual sexual activity. If 99% of sex acts among adults were the result of rape, that wouldn't somehow make the consenting examples wrong.
Sexual feelings are pleasurable at every stage of human development. Almost everyone on earth can recall doing sexual things in private in their youth and not being harmed by it. Most parents can report observing their toddlers playing with themselves in their diapers at some point. There are sonogram video images of fetuses masturbating. There's every reason to believe the vast, vast, vast majority of children from the youngest possible ages would want to experience sexual pleasure with others but for the threat of ultra severe punishment for it. If anyone who was involved in sexual activity with a pedophile as a child didn't express fear and guilt and shame for it but expressed positive feelings about it, they would be positively vilified. No one is even allowed to not be traumatized or otherwise express a deep sense of wrongness about their childhood sexual experiences with an adult without being punished for it.

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