WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet #fundie disqus.com

1. "I don't need to prove it .. the medical and science communities already have."
Citation please, proving that a human fetus is not a human being. Hint: you will not find that proof in any scientific journals.

2. No, what you said was the decision to abort was never an easy one. That is only true because everyone knows, deep down, that abortion kills a human who is not worthy of the death penalty.

3. Well, then did you know that more black babies are killed by abortion every 4 days than all of the blacks lynched by the KKK in 150 years?

4. Stop deflecting. Many of the arguments you have made in favor of abortion, including "rights" and "privacy" were precisely those made in favor of slavery.

Blacks didn't choose to be slaves, Jews didn't choose to be gassed, and babies don't choose to be aborted.

By your definition of "slavery" = telling a woman she cannot kill her preborn child, you would claim that the abolitionists telling plantation owners that they cannot own black people is "slavery" because it takes away the "rights" of slaveowners.

There is no "right" to do a wrong. Slavery and abortion are both wrongs.

Your arguments based on legality were also mimicked by slaveowners. Slavery was 100% legal just as abortion is now 100% legal. That does not make either moral however.

Those of us who are anti-abortion care tremendously about both the woman and the child - we believe that both humans have intrinsic moral value. But, those who support abortion "rights" seem to ignore the child completely and place absolutely zero value on him or her. I do not see how that view is consistent with human rights, especially when the science is settled on the humanity of the preborn child / human / baby. You yourself admitted that YOU were once a ZEF. Well, those 3000 ZEF's being killed today are "YOU's" too, worthy of our protection. Those are real people being offed.

Your admission that even in a life of the mother case, abortion is an "agonizing decision" is made precisely because you know full well that a human being with intrinsic moral value is being intentionally killed through abortion. It would not be "agonizing" if we could know for sure that the ZEF has zero intrinsic moral value.

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