Young adults who were raised by openly homosexual parents were more likely to engage in homosexuality and to later self-identify as bisexual or homosexual -- and it's quite a stark difference," Hansen shares. She notes that 24 percent of children raised by homosexuals or lesbians had experiences with the same gender, while zero percent raised by heterosexuals leaned in that direction.
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I think anonymous_troy said all that needs to be said really, but I'll add one thing.
I am heterosexual, raised by heterosexual parents, and though they got divorced quite early on I believe they did a good enough job on it. However, even though I was raised by heterosexual parents I have experimented with my sexuality, and I now live happily in a monogamous and heterosexual relationship. Guess it's not zero percent after all.
In other words; your statistical data, "Dr." Trayce Hansen, were obviously pulled out of your ass!
As most have already pointed out in here, she says that 0% of children raised by heterosexuals become homosexuals. Obviously, this can't be correct since it can't explain where the first homosexuals came from.
But on another note, there is something very disturbing about her assertions. She claims that homosexual parents irrevocably harm children. How do they do this? By increasing the odds of that child becoming homosexual.
This argument assumes that there is something inherently wrong with homosexuality to begin with. That it is an absolute "bad". Her whole argument in this article is based off of that. This is a very scary (as in, close-minded) argument, since not many people seem to have identified it in both the comments here and on the page after the link, either.
She notes that 24 percent of children raised by homosexuals or lesbians had experiences with the same gender, while zero percent raised by heterosexuals leaned in that direction.
Are you a doctor like Kent Hovind is a doctor? (He couldn't add up either.) Or a doctor like Dr Pepper is a doctor?
It has been mentiones elsewhere:
Please cite data that support your conclusion, ideally from peer reviewed papers n scientific journals.
Else there is no rason to believe you
Addendum:
Obviously on her homepage she really includes citations:
http://www.drtraycehansen.com/Pages/writings_sexpref.html
According to her own informations it were 9 papers she reviewed. Of course everything will have to be checked, especially to her methodology and her selection of papers (especially her 0% for homosexual experiences by children of heterosexuals sounds like it stems from abiased study).
Well, already a cursory review shows that in the studies reviewed even for the homosexual couples a large percentage of the children aren´t adopted, but are the biological children of one of the homosexual parents.
On the assumption that the causes for homosexuality are genetic, one would expect that children with at least one of their biological parents being homosexual, had a higher probability for being homosexual as well (compared to children were both parents where heterosexual).
So Trayces reviews prove nothing. It would be different if one would make a study with children of heterosexual parents that were adopted by homosexual couples. But considering the fact that in most countries on the world homosexual couples cannot adopt children, such a study seems to be problematic to conduct.
Translation:
Quack! Quack! Quack!
I'm sure my gay friends who grew up in christian homes with two straight parents would disagree with you.
If you're going to yank something from your sphincter, at least make sure it's semi-accurate before flinging onto teh interwebz. Thank you.
At the same time, homosexuality has no genetic component whatsoever.
Oh, and as for the "zero percent," I just love it when people on the interwebs try to prove to me that I don't exist.
Yes, that's right. God scooped up gay dust and blew like a homo on it, and that's how we got homosexuals. He saw that they were persecuted and it was good.
Doesn't everyone's bible say that?
Ooo, fundie junk science?
Did it dawn on you that homosexuals come from heterosexual families? How can someone so stupid be a real doctor?
"while zero percent raised by heterosexuals leaned in that direction. "
Then where do gays come from in the first place?
Also, does this mean gays can reproduce?
Young adults who were raised by openly left-handed parents were more likely to engage in left-handedness and to later self-identify as ambidextrous or left-handed -- and it's quite a stark difference," Hansen shares. She notes that 24 percent of children raised by left-handed people had experiences with other left-handed people, while zero percent raised by right-handed people leaned in that direction.
Young adults who were raised by openly blue-eyed parents were more likely to engage in wearing colored contacts and to later self-identify as brown-eyed or blue-eyed -- and it's quite a stark difference," Hansen shares. She notes that 24 percent of children raised by blue-eyed parents had experiences with blue-eyed people, while zero percent raised by green-eyed people leaned in that direction.
She notes that 24 percent of children raised by homosexuals or lesbians had experiences with the same gender, while zero percent raised by heterosexuals leaned in that direction.
This does beg the question that if people raised by heterosexuals are never gay, then where did gay people come from?
"while zero percent raised by heterosexuals leaned in that direction."
Then where'd the homosexual parents come from? And what kids are you talking to because they're lying. Even you if you never have an 'experiance" I believe most kids are curious. I know my friends and I all are, at least a little.
Wait.
You are comparing apples and oranges.
"Having an experience with the same gender"
is NOT the same as
"leaned in that direction".
How about the percentage that had an experience with the same gender?
Hmmm.
*Looks at my HETEROSEXUAL father.*
*Looks at my HETEROSEXUAL mother.*
My good friend, it appears that this is a load of shit.
So, um....... Where did homosexuals come from before homosexuals were allowed to adopt?
I remember a lot of homosexuals in the 70's, just where exactly did they come from? Cabbage Patches?
Straight dad, straight mom, gay brother, lesbian sister.
Zero: I do not think that word means what you think it means.
That clears up a few things: Every conservative with a gay kid who disowned it or whatever, Guess what? Either you or your spouse is an abomination in the eyes of the lord, and at least one of their or your parents.
Young adults who were raised by openly homosexual parents were more likely to engage in homosexuality and to later self-identify as bisexual or homosexual -- and it's quite a stark difference," Hansen shares.
Now...it couldn't be because said children realize that if they are gay, they most likely will not be judged harshly because of it...so rather than the parents making them gay, they allow the children to behonest? But who are we kidding? You don't care whether they're gay or not. Just so long as if they are, they go so deep in the closet, they find Christmas presents for their grandparents.
She notes that 24 percent of children raised by homosexuals or lesbians had experiences with the same gender, while zero percent raised by heterosexuals leaned in that direction.
Yeah, hi. My parents are straight. I'm not. Neither is my sister.
Yep. 0% of the children of heterosexual parents were homosexual, meaning that there must not be any homosexuals as it is illegal for homosexual adults to adopt.
Wait, what was the study about again?
Raised by hetero, homophobic parents.
Bisexual, but strongly prefer other girls.
My adopted sister Leah was raised by extremely homophobic, hetero parents, but she's bisexual too. I rest my case.
Try again, hon. My brother and best childhood friend are both gay. Both were raised in christian homes with loving heterosexual parents. Both also had 4 siblings, and were the only ones who turned out gay. Oh, and both are still very much loved by their families, and their partners were welcomed with open arms.
I call immediate, complete, and utter bullsh*t. I was not only raised by a heterosexual mother, but then a heterosexual grandmother..... and I STILL ended up liking women. So take that and shove that up your a$$
Last time I checked lesbians are homosexuals. Saying "homosexuals or lesbians" is like saying "dogs or poodles".
Bullshit statistics aside; what's the problem with having experiences with the same gender?
Then where do gay people come from?
I mean, if 0% of all children raised by straights so much as even experiment, let alone come out loud and proud, then from whence cometh the gays?
Oh wait, these stats have the gamey smell of ass to them. As in, the place you pulled them from.
I know of hetero couples 100% of whose children have been queer. Like my parents in law. So, no.
"homosexuals or lesbians"
*facepalm*
Young adults who were raised by openly homosexual parents learned at an early age that homosexuality is no big deal. If they felt any attraction towards people of the same gender, they probably "dared" express those feelings in a higher degree than young adults raised by fundie homophobes would.
Zero percent? Are you sure about that figure? Who were the openly homosexual parents raised by? I'd bet most of their parents were heterosexual.
So where did that zero percentage turn into today's gays?
Oh, another thin-air statistic, eh?
Confused?
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